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Jamis ·
Hi
to put it short - possibly default preset manager is a cause of Cubase5 crashes, if several instances of the same SM plugin, with more than a few presets in a manager are initialised one after another on Cubase5 project load.
Tested with Example Synth and some released plugins, on several OS with different audio interfaces.
There are some more details on this issue here: The Wonders Of Cubase
Jamis
Mo ·
Fingers crossed for a fix or workaround for this issue soon as it is a bit of a show-stopper for making commercial plugins..!
This issue sure need some attention.
Jamis, have you tried if it´s worse or better with SM v1.1.6?
Jamis ·
no, I haven't,
I have less time for testing recently - can anyone test it for us? Anyway - I doubt 1.1.6 will work better under cubase5. But every test brings us (or OutSim) closer to the point...
Jamis
Mo ·
Yeah, I'll test some more later too.. Hopefully we can come closer to what causes the problem..
Mo ·
Had a little more test on this. Replicate is easy: load two or more instances, save the project, load the project. Cubase is then crashed and is hanging in the processes and can not be killed 5-10 minutes even if Cubase seems closed. That makes it impossible to overwrite the plugin file until the process closes itself after a while and is very much a pain to test many issues. The only fix so far seems to be set number of presets to 1 or 2 but not 3 or more! 🙁
tektoog ·
hey, same reply as there: Reaper reload crash-SOLVED w/prefs
think it's linked to the vsti ID... Same thing happens when you open a SM vsti in a host, save the project, open the osm in SM; do a change in the schematic, render again to vsti, re-open the project...crash... go back to SM, change vst ID, rexport to vsti, reopen project, NO crash... I think it's linked to a bad refresh...
Have you tried that ? Try to save two instances with 2 different VSTI IDs...see what happens...
Mo ·
tektoog wrote: Have you tried that ? Try to save two instances with 2 different VSTI IDs...see what happens...
Cubase sees a plugin with a different ID as a completely other plugin even if it's the same name, so you can't save a project and make a new ID. Cubase just can't find the plugin. Saving my plugin with a fresh ID and loading 2 instances, save, load and still crash.
Mo ·
Issue solved in SM2.
Many thanks!
mwvdlee ·
Would somebody mind labelling this bug as [FIXED] or something like that in the subject? That way it's easy to recognize which bugs are still open or need rechecking.
DigitalWhiteByte ·
@MO You could post a small schematic with which to do the test?
Mo ·
DigitalWhiteByte wrote: You could post a small schematic with which to do the test?
To do the test i just load 3 instances of the example synth in cubase. Save the cubase project and close cubase. Then open cubase and load the saved project. Cubase was frozen and could not close but it seems fine now. 🙂
DigitalWhiteByte ·
Thanks MO, but with regard to another problem that was encountered with the preset manager, the presets could not be more than 3...? It was found that the trick adopted loading presets in txt format, leaving just one slot to the preset manager. Even this is resolved? I have not had the opportunity yet to test 😊
Mo ·
Yes, the example synth has 32 presets and it works fine now. No need to keep it to 1 preset anymore.
DigitalWhiteByte ·
OK Thank!!!!!
& BUMP FOR ALL
Jamis ·
glad to hear it has been solved thnx
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