SynthMaker

Cannot have more than 32 presets in Ableton 8

Archive · 2010 9 old posts

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Panoply ·

As stated really.

Here is an OSM that is rigged to allow VST export.

There are 33 knobs in it.

When exported, this produces the dreaded 'invisible knob' state and nothing can be automated and settings are not correctly remembered.

Remove a knob from the schematic and all is well.

32 Knobs is nowhere near enough.

I'm in the final stages of developing something with more far than 100 - 200 (more? I haven't counted TBH, but 32 doesn't even tickle it) in one form or another.

aliasant ·

Hmm. Pretty odd indeed.

A fix for me was to replace the PM with a new standard from the toolbox.

Then when I saved a program to the desktop and looked at it it actually showed all 33knobs. Before I replaced it I saved a couple of presets but they only showed 30 knobs/parameters even though it said it had all the 33 parameters...

Panoply ·

Does exactly the same thing with Ernst's Hot Preset Manager which is the only other one I know ... and TBF, I'm not convinced this is a preset manager issue - I think its actually something buggy between SM and Ableton - although I don't know this. My spidy sense is tingling though ... as soon as I see the number 32 in an error I generally smell a rat.

In Cubase 4 and Reaper ... there is no problem ... Tempting as it is to say the synth doesn't support Ableton, I fear this will not go down well.

Panoply ·

Well, still haven't found a way around this problem - I don't think it is within my power within the program even, and still no official word as to whether this thread has even been noticed ...

... Is SynthMaker still getting bug fixed or not - ?

Jamis ·

Which version of Ableton you use? I remember that a friend of mine had a similar problem with Ableton 8.0.1. But as far as I remember - my plugin (with 76 knobs and 64 presets) automated well within version updated to 8.1.1. But the test were quick - so maybe I have missed something.

cheers

Jamis

Jamis ·

Panoply wrote: In Cubase 4 and Reaper ... there is no problem ... Tempting as it is to say the synth doesn't support Ableton, I fear this will not go down well.

Well - read those posts: The Wonders Of Cubase

it seems Cubase 5, and possibly 4 - have a tremendous issue with default preset manager - if it has more than one preset total and more than several instances of the same plugin are initialised one after another. Reaper doesn't seem to have this problem as far as I know.

All right, I post a bug reference to Cubase 5, because all the detective work of several people might go unnoticed.

Jamis

exonerate ·

Panoply wrote: Well, still haven't found a way around this problem - I don't think it is within my power within the program even, and still no official word as to whether this thread has even been noticed ...

... Is SynthMaker still getting bug fixed or not - ?

Using my preset manager HERE might work.

Cheers 😉

Exo

Panoply ·

thats nice work - and a big step up from the preset manager - but it doesn't solve this issue I'm afraid.

I'm indeed using 8.0.1

I'm updating to 8.2 now - at dial up speed - to see if that helps. Yuk.

I'll report back when its finished.

Its a shame - The parameter management issues seem to be getting worse as time goes on, not better.

Panoply ·

this is indeed fixed in the 8.2 release after 3 corrupt downloads - worth pointing out that this doesn't work in 8.0.1 - which I know a lot of people out there do use 🙂 Cheers for the tip - At least I can say I'm Ableton friendly, if not the other way around now 🙂

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