SynthMaker

1.1.7: exports crash if more than 1 SM version installed

Archive · 2010 14 old posts

From the original SynthMaker forum (2004–2014), with its members’ names and dates.

infuzion ·

If you install one version of SM, then install another version, and try to export an OSM in the first, the configuration gets confused & makes your export crash-happy. Tricky to isolate, since OSMs work as expected in both. This may prevent beta-testing, bug-hunting, or testing OSMs in older versions, which may be important if SM's newer versions changed enough to make your old OSMs act differently.

Workaround: Use different OS installs if you have to rollback, or just fully uninstall (& remove all hidden configs), & install the version you want to work on.

Preferred Solution: "Removable" version that has all config & support files located only in one folder, rather than 2-3 folders all over the HD & using the registry. I prefer to use my system utils this way, even if I do not install them on an USB drive.

Below is the original bug report:

original wrote: Well, what was to be my first published crashed on me. OSM works fine, crashes on load as EXE, & will crash Ableton Live 7.0.18 as VSTi. Not sure what I'm doing is so destructive... not much else to say without making an arce of myself. I'm a bit beyond peeved now. http://drop.io/idhdxod/asset/clicker01-crashonload-7z

Tzarls ·

Do you get the "debug mode" message? It says something about having ctrl + shift pressed during export. It crashes on me too, at least the exe file. But when I re-exported your schematic to .exe it worked fine.

MichaelBenjamin ·

both work when re-exported, but the ones in the zip crash too here.

aliasant ·

Tzarls wrote: Do you get the "debug mode" message? It says something about having ctrl + shift pressed during export. It crashes on me too, at least the exe file. But when I re-exported your schematic to .exe it worked fine.

Same experiance here. Re export works fine. But what the heck is this for? 😕 lol

tektoog ·

Sounds like a cool base for a cymbal maker as well as for snare drums...

stw ·

MichaelBenjamin wrote: both work when re-exported, but the ones in the zip crash too here.

dito

Tzarls ·

aliasant wrote: Same experiance here. Re export works fine. But what the heck is this for? 😕 lol

I think it´s a click maker, for making those"clicks" you get sometimes when turning certain knobs.

aliasant ·

Lol

Most of us spend hours, days or even weeks trying to get rid of or at least dim clicks but Infuzion does the complete opposite and creates a machine like this 🙂

LMAO! 😀 😀 😀

infuzion ·

Tzarls wrote: I think it´s a click maker, for making those"clicks" you get sometimes when turning certain knobs.

Tzarls wins the prize! http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4195489 == I found the real bug; I had installed 1.1.7 then 1.1.2. Opening OSMs is fine, but SM's install methods (or change to) bunged something up bad. I changed the topic & 1st post.

Tzarls ·

I must say I cheated - I read rob´s post a few days ago. 😉

I remember reading that you can´t have 2 installs of SM side by side. I think Malc suggested renaming folders in order to make it work. Like, install 1.1.2. Then rename the program folder to something else, like SM112. Then install 1.1.7. When you want to use 1.1.2, rename the new installation folder to say SM117 and rename SM112 to Synthmaker. When you want to use 1.1.7, rename SM117 to Synthmaker...... you get the idea.

infuzion ·

Tzarls wrote: I remember reading that you can´t have 2 installs of SM side by side. I think Malc suggested renaming folders in order to make it work. Like, install 1.1.2. Then rename the program folder to something else, like SM112. Then install 1.1.7. When you want to use 1.1.2, rename the new installation folder to say SM117 and rename SM112 to Synthmaker. When you want to use 1.1.7, rename SM117 to Synthmaker...... you get the idea.

Thanks for the idea... but perhaps shouldn't SM automate that, or warn or something?

mayo ·

Hello infuzion,

I have both versions installed 1.1.7 and 1.1.6 and don't have such a problem as you mentioned. Export on both versions works great.

I don't remember which version I've installed first, it is possible that 1.1.7 was first and then 1.1.6

aliasant ·

mayo wrote: Hello infuzion,

I have both versions installed 1.1.7 and 1.1.6 and don't have such a problem as you mentioned. Export on both versions works great.

I don't remember which version I've installed first, it is possible that 1.1.7 was first and then 1.1.6

Might be that 1.1.6 uses the same folders as 1.1.7 so theres no conflict. Cant remember what version Malc changed it so that modules moved to user folder instead of application folder and maybe that has nothing to do with it but it might. 😕 😀

sunsynth ·

Here a little helper that works 4 me:

save it into something like "SM_v117r_Stick=E.bat"

@echo off title Synthmaker backup Batchprocessor by W. Sommerfeld

cls copy "modules\System_v117" "modules\System" /Y copy exe.dll_v117 exe.dll /Y copy vst.dll_v117 vst.dll /Y copy SynthMaker.exe_v117 SynthMaker.exe /Y

@echo. @echo. @echo Synthmaker started!

call SynthMaker.exe %1 REM => Create a shortcut to this .Bat (saved/copied in SM Folder) and change the icon into the SM one... REM now u can drag 'n drop an osm on this shortcut... et voila 🙂 cls @echo on

XCOPY "%ProgramFiles%\Outsim\SynthMaker\OSM\*.*" "E:\_OUTSIM Synthmaker\Osm\" /M /D:07-01-2010 /S /Y XCOPY "%ProgramFiles%\Outsim\SynthMaker\Modules\User\*.*" "E:\_OUTSIM Synthmaker\Modules\User\" /M /D:07-01-2010 /S /Y XCOPY "%appdata%\SynthMaker\Modules\User\*.*" "E:\_OUTSIM Synthmaker\Modules\User\" /M /D:07-01-2010 /S /Y XCOPY "%appdata%\SynthMaker\Recovery\*.*" "E:\_OUTSIM Synthmaker\Recovery\" /M /D:07-01-2010 /S /Y

It's self-explanatory if ur familiar with Batches 😉 If u have any questions... Go ahead!

P.S: after SM install copy exe.dll vst.dll synthmaker.exe and /System to the corresponding version like "vst.dll_v117" etc.

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