1 year celebration with the best DAW and the progress is....
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From the original SynthMaker forum (2004–2014), with its members’ names and dates.
noise_maker ·
The progress is -A W S O M E-
Lots of things were improved drastically, much less drafty and clumsy these days!
At least 1500% more powerful, the menu editor itself stands for 200% alone.
THANK YOU for listening to lots of FRs, it really make the difference, especially since this forum is full of experienced users, keep up the amazing work!
Here is the update list since then (July 2009):
List here
*Mod fix
Please that list was just horrendous
Being a fan of any app is great but lets have some thought for other forum users
So much more polite to post that list in a .txt file as you can see 😉
Cheers
NAS
rl ·
pardon sir! the reaper forum is next door, this way please, thankyou!
MichaelBenjamin ·
but then the offtopic would have to be closed, since there is probably a forum for everything somewhere.
Nu Audio Science ·
Being a long time user of Reaper i find the list of updates uninspiring and lacklustre at best
Since v3 nearly all the important updates to Reaper have come from 3rd parties using the API
Cockos have a lot to answer to with v4 and if they don't do it they will rapidly be losing customers ( I know of a lot that are leaving already)
NAS
Nu Audio Science ·
MichaelBenjamin wrote: but then the offtopic would have to be closed, since there is probably a forum for everything somewhere.
Actually MB i think RL was talking about the horrendous list that was posted in the OP post before i put it in a txt file and modded it
It was bad hahahahaha
But yeah besides that this is anything goes in here pretty much (No not threatening to kill each other hahaha)
NAS
MichaelBenjamin ·
yes ok,
i found reaper to be excellent on one side but on the other side it got such a context menu overload and feature creep that it more and more resembles the typical dinosaur daw. but a good one.
btw i never understood why they hardwired mouse left/right click functionality opposite to the usual without an option to change this, since they semm to have an option for atleast everything else. did they update this so you can switch this now?
Nu Audio Science ·
No they did not and it is a pet peeve that i have argued with the devs about 🙁
NAS
MichaelBenjamin ·
really, what kind of reasoning was that to keep it hardwired like that?
Nu Audio Science ·
Reasoning hahahahahaha we are talking about cockos not normal humans
In Cockos land "Delete" becomes "Remove selected item..." (Gotta love the ...) hahahaha
You still think they need a reason lol
NAS
MichaelBenjamin ·
i dont know, they probably do not need any reason, since its their daw, maybe they have some way of coding that prevents them from putting customisation into left/right mouse.
Nu Audio Science ·
No
They have already said that the mouse customisation FR will be getting done at some point
Honestly i don't think there is anything that Justin can't do if he wants to do it
He is a very special coder to say the least
NAS
noise_maker ·
Nu Audio Science wrote: Being a long time user of Reaper i find the list of updates uninspiring and lacklustre at best
Since v3 nearly all the important updates to Reaper have come from 3rd parties using the API
Cockos have a lot to answer to with v4
Sometimes there are things that you need to do, those things take time, if they wouldn't do it since then, they would need to do it in the future and it would probably be harder...
Btw what kind of things do you expect to see in the near future? Post FR links...?
Nu Audio Science ·
I expect nothing any more from Reaper
It is a great digital tape recorder at which it excels
The MIDI is now usable (I might add here that i was told time and time again that i was imagining the lost notes and bad timing, Of course they then went and fixed it so all is well anyway)
What i would like to see is a complete rethink on the entire GUI
Currently it is a bunch of great stuff thrown together in a barely workable manner
Once you get used to it it isn't too bad but it is far from ideal
NAS
noise_maker ·
MichaelBenjamin wrote: yes ok,
i found reaper to be excellent on one side but on the other side it got such a context menu overload
See #1 Menu Editor -
My FR list: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php? ... mplemented
you can now edit 99% of the menus in reaper.
MichaelBenjamin wrote: btw i never understood why they hardwired mouse left/right click functionality opposite to the usual without an option to change this, since they semm to have an option for atleast everything else. did they update this so you can switch this now?
did they?
it seems to work natural here...
anyway there should be a mouse zone editor in the future.
you can a find a link to this feature request in my signature (Mouse Customization) http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php? ... mplemented
Nu Audio Science ·
Dude myself and Alex where asking for the menu editing since v1 hahahahaha
It is a very very important update (probably one of the most important in the v3 life cycle) but should have happened 3 years before (point proven by MB comments 😉 )
At the end of all this is one thing though ,If you are happy that is all that matters right ?
Don't fall into the cult of Reaper (I love Reaper and help run the chat by the way hahaha) where you start trying to get others to love it as much as you do 😉
NAS
MichaelBenjamin ·
the menu editor sounds really good. the irritating mouse behaviour is that it rectangle-selects with right click and moves with left click and left rectangle-select sets the loop section.
noise_maker ·
Nu Audio Science wrote: What i would like to see is a complete rethink on the entire GUI
Currently it is a bunch of great stuff thrown together in a barely workable manner
Once you get used to it it isn't too bad but it is far from ideal
NAS
Totally...
If you notice my feature requests, 99% are GUI related.
Modular graphics
Mouse Customization
however, I already manged to make reaper look pretty awesome and inspiring, and I love my drop down menus!
This is probably the first time that I actually use all the entries in the drop down menus. (thanks to the menu customization)
same for the toolbar buttons, cleaned from actions that I don't need to be there.
CTRL+ D for duplicating is now working even better than Cubase...(thanks to the new Nudge action tool)
lots of custom actions that saves me tons of technical time...it took me time to build my workflow, but now it feels like a monster!
Nu Audio Science ·
I find the nudge dialogue useless to be honest
Everything it does i already have macros to do in the way i want to do them
Not saying they shouldn't have done it but everything it does was already doable
NAS
noise_maker ·
MichaelBenjamin wrote: the menu editor sounds really good. the irritating mouse behaviour is that it rectangle-selects with right click and moves with left click and left rectangle-select sets the loop section.
move with left click ? :P what ?
it was one of the first things that I cried about when I started to use reaper...
the navigation is much better (configurable..), it will be even better once the mouse zone editor will reveal :P
noise_maker ·
Nu Audio Science wrote: I find the nudge dialogue useless to be honest
Everything it does i already have macros to do in the way i want to do them
Not saying they shouldn't have done it but everything it does was already doable
NAS
I used to duplicate items with sws "paste repeat" ... but I find the nudge dialog better for my workflow
Nu Audio Science ·
noise_maker wrote: t will be even better once the mouse zone editor will reveal :P
No disrespect but i love the way Reaper users do this hehehe
There is no information on any of this at all but it "Will" be better
Try the word hopefully hahahahaha
Sorry i am not having a dig at you noise_maker its just that i closed my Reaper forum account because of that very kind of thing
NAS
noise_maker ·
Nu Audio Science wrote:
noise_maker wrote: t will be even better once the mouse zone editor will reveal :P
No disrespect but i love the way Reaper users do this hehehe
There is no information on any of this at all but it "Will" be better
Try the word hopefully hahahahaha
Sorry i am not having a dig at you noise_maker its just that i closed my Reaper forum account because of that very kind of thing
NAS
I donno about your experience...
but from my experience it looks like we will have a mouse zone editor, the question is when.
I already got about 50 features requests implemented, some bigger some smaller, most of them weren't even posted in the issue tracker.
they listen, however they have a schedular and workflow as well...
when you work on delay based plugins, you won't jump in the middle of the work to build a waveshaper...because you will need to read about it while you didn't even finish to read about delay based plugins....
the more users that will show interest, the better chance that cockos will give it a urgent attention...but anyway I have no doubt that we will have a mouse zone editor eventually (unless the world end before :P )
Nu Audio Science ·
Good for you 😉
Now go read the FR list and see how many of the highest rated FRs are not implemented yet (Don't assume anything about devs, Major downfall of any user)
My experience is expect nothing and everything is a bonus
NAS
noise_maker ·
Now go read the FR list and see how many of the highest rated FRs are not implemented yet (Don't assume anything about devs, Major downfall of any user)
As far as I noticed, Elevated FRs are not only about how much votes, cockos themself put it in there, which means that they will take it seriously at some point, it is about timing...there are probably some features that won't be done because there will be something better that cover them.
I agree that it is better to have mouse customization right away, this way lots of newbies will get used to reaper much faster and will stay...
but maybe it requires lots of time to plan and program, maybe it is better to wait for this untill the dev will feel ready for this challenge so it won't be a waste of time that may cause the dev to a workflow block, maybe he need more experience..? etc..
I have no doubt that they see the potential of this feature request to help newcomers from other daws to get used to reaper.
btw NAS and MichaelBenjamin
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