Synthmaker controller for Nordlead 2x

rl · 24 May 2010

I don't know the Nord synths, but usually you could send a midi controller-dump request to the instrument, which in turn sends CC values of each knob/slider/button back. You can set each of your knobs/sliders/buttons to react on midi CC as SM's default knob does. Or you send a SYS-EX patch dump request to the instrument which sends a block of sys-ex data back. Parse the data and set the elements of the dashboard accordingly.

When changing presets in your dashboard you could use the "After Program Change" of the "Preset Manager" module to send the current values of all knobs/sliders/buttons to the instrument.

studentSmaker · 25 May 2010

Thank you... i already make it work as you can see on the image, normaly i use Cubase sx but the sinthmaker than i have is on FL studio...

The only BAD thing on this is than the knobs of the Dashboard yes works, but not works like they should. For example, if i move the knob "octave" on the dashboard dont works equal like the same knob of the Nordlead, the difference is totally notorious with every knob of the dashboard than not works like i imagine before of try...

So for me this is too far of be a good virtual controller of Nordlead 2x. 🙁

I dont know if happen the same with the others dashboadrs, i dont know if is a less compatibility of synthmaker with Nord or if is problem of the dashboard designed by FL...

rl · 25 May 2010

Re: the Octave Range: You should consult the Midi Specification Sheet of the Nord or use a Midi Monitor Program like MIDI OX to see what data is transmitted. e.g. when turning the octave knob on the Nord, I could imagine the Nord does not send values in the [0..127] range, but maybe in the [0..7] range (in case it uses 8 octaves). Synthmaker is capable for Midi. I did a controller for one of my synths. SM is a wonderful program for this kind of tasks and - for example - eats programs like Midi Quest for breakfast.

matti · 27 May 2010

Hello studentSmaker 🙂 You were asking about the load function i did for the Nord Lead. It's actually just a skeleton and an example of how to interpret sysex data of the Nord Lead.. which i did a long time ago. I haven't needed it for anything myself because i think loading and saving sysex data has been enough. I can control the synth more nicely from it's own knobs 🙂 But take a look, maybe it helps.

matti · 27 May 2010

The Gui you've made looks really good 😉

There's also few interesting things in the manual about the Nord Lead. For example, you can send a command to it and it reply's with all it's controller values in CC. This way you could sync your editor pretty easy. As long as you have the right controller numbers set up for all the controls.

If you don't have a manual go and download one from www.clavia.se

studentSmaker · 18 Jul 2010

Hello matti, thanks a lot for the archive... i will try it

and about the Nord GUI, im not the creator... hehe is Image Line http://www.image-line.com

indeed looks really nice, but unfortunately the dashboard is terrible, dont works good... Here i leave you the archive...

i dont know but maybe an expert like you can make some modifications for make it works correctly 🙂

I always use the Knobs directly from the nordlead... but... i think can be interesting manipulate them like a vst... reminds me to Virus synth hehe, let me know if you get some result 🙂

Many greetings and thanks again for the archive!

louizou · 26 Jul 2010

hi folks, sorry for my bad english( i'm french) i got a nordrack 2x and i've tried with the help of matti's OSM as a start to do my own clavia editor from now i can: - receive by sysex a patch dump correctly (including velocity/morph assign parameter for each knob) - send midi cc to the clavia for all knobs and buttons (velocity/morph assign can't be send by CC)

my only problem remaining is convert back int values to those damned nibbles so that i could send the entire patch to the nord (including velocity/morph assign values)

here are the screenshot of the baby

@matti : please , i need help !!

louizou · 27 Jul 2010

I 've found this on google . I think this it what i need but i'm not sure. Could someone confirm it , please ?

public byte GetHighValue() { return (byte)(((int)values&0xF0)>>4); } public byte GetLowValue() { return (byte)((int)values&0x0F); }

here is what i've done with SM ,it seems to be ok but i can't test a the moment on the nordrack.

studentSmaker · 29 Jul 2010

louizou! can you share the Dash after finish? Yes?? Yes? please please! pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee looks fantastic! 😍

I open this thread: Helps for finish Nordleads Dashboards?

hope some one come here to help us... do you and taste the other nordlead attached here? download and check it maybe can be of help for you too...

louizou · 29 Jul 2010

hi studentsmaker ,

i have tested the image line's dashboard.i'm sorry to say that but it's a big piece of shit.... only their push buttons have a nice looking (this is the only thing i took from it) i've tried to make them have the same behaviour as the real , not finished for all but i'll do it this weekend if you can test the behaviour of the ringmod/sync and distortion led when receiving the dump that would be cool (i'm not at home at the moment , can't test it )

i use this plugin with ableton live8.1. i need to select the "midi in" each time i start use it even if the good midi device is selected (don't know if it's the same with other hosts....... you only just have to turn the program knob for selecting and receiving the dump 😀 the switch on the right bottom corner is for editing (if true midi cc are sent to the nord) i deactivate it when receiving the dump and reactivate it when turning knobs on switching buttons

except sending the dump to the synth it misses responding to the real knobs(i'll add it at the end)

here is the link for the vst http://louizou.fr/NordRack2X.dll test it and give me your feedback and detected bugs it's only my first OSM , i'm not a SM pro .......

AngularMomentum · 20 Sept 2010

Ah heck, why should I care...