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AngularMomentum ·
I have a lot of projects that are just collecting virtual dust...for instance the arp oddysey emulator I used to work on...
Maybe it would be cool to make it a project here and work together on this. I have already made a good headstart, for instance the GUI is all done and it is already producing some oddy sounds. Beware though, a lot needs to be done! 🙂
Anybody up for it?!
MegaHurtz ·
Looking GOOD!
AngularMomentum ·
Thanks man, would be nice having you join this project. 🙂
philter5 ·
😍 😍 😍 😍 MAN ARE YOU SERIOUS? the gMedia Oddity is my absolute favourite synth ever and i would love to help you with your own Arp Odyssey Emu !!! But good to be not the only one with a "virtual dust collector". it´s just boring to sit on a special OSM for months and work only on ONE project, isn´t it? 😀 so AM, i am in the team hehe. lol. i can´t do much but give me some dirty work. phil
Acrobat ·
AngularMomentum wrote: Anybody up for it?!
Really nice, AM, consider I can quite test the fidelty, as I own a real ARP Axxe Mark I which is the lower brother to that.
MegaHurtz ·
Ill be glad to 😉
trogluddite ·
Must be good - it's one of the old 'white panel' ones!!
AngularMomentum ·
Heheh, yeah, I wanted it to look like the mark I.
Philter, I have a lot of stuff that could be turned into a project...I hope we can get this finished and get some more nice (and recent) example content online here. Two finished projects is a bit poor... 🙂
Acrobat, that is awesome, I don't know if we will get the sound close to the real thing, but we can certainly get the modulation, ranges and such correct.
Mega....awesome!
So should I start with a "to do" list?
philter5 ·
...@ AM: okay let´s do it! to collaborate on a project gives better motivation then creating stuff only for myself... 😉
philter5 ·
...BTW: a "to-Do" List would be really great. i´ve just began with some small additions to the preset manger because it was the first coming to my mind. 😀 now you can copy&paste presets and use MIDI Program Change Messages to control the manager. i´ve just mixed your Preset manager copy&paste mod and a Preset manager with MIDI Program Change by oddson 😉
philter5 ·
...forgot the file hehe. here it is:
AngularMomentum ·
Nice, I will copy your work to what I did last night, cleaned up the schematic. There is some stuff that made sense then and doesn't make sense at all now. I will have to go through the manual and look how the LFO and S&H mixing is done. Maybe Acrobat can shed some light on that. 🙂
philter5 ·
i need to know which method AM would like to use for midi learn. @ AM:i wasn´t sure if you are going to upload the cleaned version soon, so i took the old one for this example but it doesn´t matter, 🙂 it´s just a midi learn system that can easily be added to the sliders. in learn mode,just move the mouse over the slider you want to control and then turn the controller you would like to use for it. right click on a slider resets it and right click on the midi learn switch resets all bindings.
AngularMomentum ·
I am a little behind on what I had planned...I have to finish a logo for Grobe first, then I will commit myself to the project! 🙂
I like that system best, just touch a control and then your controller...ace!
trogluddite ·
@philter
That MIDI learn is cool - so easy to set lots of knobs in one go! Strangely I just updated all my knobs with the mouse over thing, for making help boxes come up when you hover on a control. Do you mind if I borrow some of your Controller Learn method for Soopa Loopa? - I can swap you for a nice centralised controller binding module that can check for clashing assignments and save the bindings as a VST Parameter array inside presets (the help boxes are part of the same thing). Putting the two together would be great - if you're up for it, I'll create a new thread where we can develop a nice MIDI Learn/Tooltip Help system for everyone to use on their controls.
philter5 ·
trogluddite wrote: @philter
That MIDI learn is cool - so easy to set lots of knobs in one go! Strangely I just updated all my knobs with the mouse over thing, for making help boxes come up when you hover on a control. Do you mind if I borrow some of your Controller Learn method for Soopa Loopa? - I can swap you for a nice centralised controller binding module that can check for clashing assignments and save the bindings as a VST Parameter array inside presets (the help boxes are part of the same thing). Putting the two together would be great - if you're up for it, I'll create a new thread where we can develop a nice MIDI Learn/Tooltip Help system for everyone to use on their controls.
thx for the feedback! just credit me and you can use this for your soopa loopa as you like. i am glad that you like it! of course im up for the MIDI Learn/Tooltip Help system, just open the new thread and we can start 😀
@ AM: thx and see ya soon 🙂
AngularMomentum ·
Almost ready, I send a new design to Grobe...see what he thikns about it and make the last few changes...
Acrobat ·
AngularMomentum wrote: Acrobat, that is awesome, I don't know if we will get the sound close to the real thing, but we can certainly get the modulation, ranges and such correct.
Ranges (especially of the LFO) are extreeemely wide on the real thing, send me the ones you want to check and I'll put it off the shelf... 😉
AngularMomentum ·
Surely the osc tuning and LFO speed ranges... 🙂
Acrobat ·
AngularMomentum wrote: Surely the osc tuning and LFO speed ranges... 🙂
OK I'll check this week if I can.... 😉
Acrobat ·
Acrobat wrote: AngularMomentum wrote: Surely the osc tuning and LFO speed ranges... 🙂
OK I'll check this week if I can.... 😉
You probably already know there's just one generator of LFO pitches that controls both SINE and SQUARE modulation, AND the sample and hold speed. Anyway you can have a sound using simulataneously LFO->S/H modulating a Noise waveform, that's great for creating natural drum hits, so the noise sources must be 2, actually... 😉
AngularMomentum ·
Thanks for the valuable info, Acrobat!
Grobe is satisfied with the logo I made him, so I think I can start this week with the cleanup! 🙂
Acrobat ·
AngularMomentum wrote: Thanks for the valuable info, Acrobat!
Grobe is satisfied with the logo I made him, so I think I can start this week with the cleanup! 🙂
there more news on my front, am: I took the axxe off the shelf and made some samples on the PC. 80MBytes of samples with tests of PWM, LFO, VCOs, etc ectc. Now sad is I have the zip archive here but it seems corrupt, I fear you should wait the time I have it repacked... 🙁
I just can tell you for now that: -PWM goes from 5% to 50% -LFO speed from 0.2 Hertz to 20 Hertz. -Resonance already goes to self-oscillation at 3/4 of the slider coarse. -"Envelope 2 Filter Cutoff" control (red pot) is NOT sufficient to open all the filter frequency control when its slider is at 0/4 of coarse. It probably reaches something between 2/4,3/4 of cutoff coarse. - The Sample & Hold uses the portamento circuitry, so in the original machine you have to choose one of the two with a simple switch (farupleft).
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infuzion ·
Acrobat wrote: I took the axxe off the shelf and made some samples on the PC. 80MBytes of samples with tests of PWM, LFO, VCOs, etc ectc. Now sad is I have the zip archive here but it seems corrupt,
Oops! I use 7zip.org, seems to pack the best.
Acrobat ·
infuzion wrote: Acrobat wrote: I took the axxe off the shelf and made some samples on the PC. 80MBytes of samples with tests of PWM, LFO, VCOs, etc ectc. Now sad is I have the zip archive here but it seems corrupt,
Oops! I use 7zip.org, seems to pack the best.
Thanks, it seems I managed to get it to work, now AM, everyone it's here: BIG DOWNLOAD 80 MBytes http://www.blank-media.it/acrobatics/ARP_AxxeSamples.zip
AngularMomentum ·
Wow!! Excellent work! Will check all of this in the weekend.
I am delayed with work on this...my kid is taking a lot of attention last/this week...going to a new school for autistic kids.
Acrobat ·
AngularMomentum wrote: Wow!! Excellent work! Will check all of this in the weekend.
I am delayed with work on this...my kid is taking a lot of attention last/this week...going to a new school for autistic kids.
yeah, I couldn't calculate myself, but browsing through the samples of the LFO behaviour, it should be easy to check how much the LFO affects VCO pitch.
P.S. it could be done by ear with another synthesizer at hand, or mathematically dividing the sampling frequency for the milliseconds of one single cycle of the waveform, keeping in mind that I sampled at 48000 Hz. 😉
Cyforce ·
philter5 wrote: ...forgot the file hehe. here it is:
The attached preset manager, looks nice, but i testing it on the odyssey in the osm there, and well, he don`t save all parameter...^^ So is there something wrong with the manager or with the faders/switchers etc.?
MichaelBenjamin ·
if things dont work right with the preset manager, check out this tool: Preset Duplicate Finder
basically you need to be sure every parameter you want to store actually has a vst primitive in it, and an unique name. often it happens that you forget to rename and you end up with 2 identical named parameters that screw up the preset module.
Cyforce ·
MichaelBenjamin wrote: if things dont work right with the preset manager, check out this tool: Preset Duplicate Finder
basically you need to be sure every parameter you want to store actually has a vst primitive in it, and an unique name. often it happens that you forget to rename and you end up with 2 identical named parameters that screw up the preset module.
So for easier udnerstanding, if some knobs, faders, button or whatever have the same name, they getting not stored?
trogluddite ·
Yes, all the names must be totally unique - if they are the same it messes up the preset manager, and when you make a plugin it will do strange things when you load into a VST host.
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