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stw ·
ok i couldn't stand it...
Due to MyCo's module discovery and kindly mentioning its use HERE i had to mock up a quick unsion version of the example synth.
With the multi voice prim you don't have to deal with any workaround to span and manipulate more voices on one trigger.
I'd say this could be called real Unison. Which really makes my day because although i got one of these workarounds already running it never ran that smooth as this solution. This first atempt only deals with four voices. I guess it can be expanded to work with more voices and maybe overall improved. But i don't have the time for that now and i've to admit i don't have a clue on how to manage the account of voices with the integer array right now.
Anyway - have fun - and another big THANK YOU to MyCo for bringing up that prim!
aliasant ·
Nice work. Quite fast and simple 🙂
exonerate ·
Good stuff 🙂 I have know about that component for a long time. But never even though to try unison with it.
Nice one. 🙂
MegaHurtz ·
If you want to set the values manually you can do something like this;
ugh thats excellent.
does it got bugs or why wasnt this module visible before?
thanks myco & stw!
after a quick try, it seems it doesnt matter which numbers are in the array, or better i dont understand what they do. doesnt seem to affect the unison at all.
infuzion ·
MichaelBenjamin wrote: ugh thats excellent.
does it got bugs or why wasnt this module visible before?
thanks myco & stw!
after a quick try, it seems it doesnt matter which numbers are in the array, or better i don't understand what they do. doesnt seem to affect the unison at all.
I have no idea why MegaHurtz posted that ASM Code; it is totally unrelated to what you are doing. What he posted is more or less a Mono Pack4.
MyCo ·
actually that's not the way I thought of making it unison. I know how you make it, but I'm not sure if this works under all circumstances. I think if you have a voice playing, and then you toggle unison, you could get a real mess.
MichaelBenjamin ·
yes it is kind of bugged, while changing the array the sound stopped and i could not get it back to work without a reload.
@infuzion: i know, you could detune the 4 uni stream with that, but i first tried to change the integer array to see what it does
MyCo ·
This is the way, how I'd made the unison. This uses the voice tag as reference, for the detune amount.
It's the quick&dirty version. Could be optimized a lot, but so it's more readable 😈
stw ·
MyCo wrote: This is the way, how I'd made the unison. This uses the voice tag as reference, for the detune amount.
It's the quick&dirty version. Could be optimized a lot, but so it's more readable 😈
Yes, that's the most obvious way to do it. I haven't thought about that because my fomer VoiceTag tryings have been very unreliable. But that's some time go. With the Multi Voice Prim that's definitely another thing. I tried it and it works perfect! Though i didn't get any probs with my version i think this one is "cleaner" and easier to implement.
aliasant ·
I tried that once Myco but my simple head never got around it... but couldnt we use the taggin method to also get Polyphonic Portamento?
MichaelBenjamin ·
how would poly portamento even work on paper? with unison it would be the same as mono portamento, and with normal poly it would be that when the voice limit is reached only the last note that gets overwritten would bend to the new value, like it already is now.
infuzion ·
MyCo wrote: This is the way, how I'd made the unison. This uses the voice tag as reference, for the detune amount.
It's the quick&dirty version. Could be optimized a lot, but so it's more readable 😈
Sounds great! It is readable, thank you 🙂
I do notice a bug though. :/ Sometimes if you play 2 notes, & play a 3rd while the other 2 are held, the 3rd will not play. Happens if Portamento is off or on. Test case:
1) Open OSM, leave default patch, does not matter number of voices
2) Use computer-typing keyboard for MIDI
3) Hold X + B
4) Press V; no extra note will play at all.
5) Same issue happens if you play W+T,R or R+U,Y etc
Some other 2 note then 3rd combos work as intended, like T+I,U.
cheers
MyCo ·
@Infuzion: It's the keyboard controller that makes this "bug". It has something todo how the key matrix is scanned. There are a few gaming keyboard that avoid this problem.
infuzion ·
MyCo wrote: @Infuzion: It's the keyboard controller that makes this "bug". It has something todo how the key matrix is scanned. There are a few gaming keyboard that avoid this problem.
Sure about that? I have never seen it before in SM. Also same issue herewith the same MIDI to Multi Voice. I also do not have that issue when using my keyboard in Ableton Live.
MyCo ·
yeah, I'm realy shure. It's called "ghosting".
Here is an explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_%28key%29
kirkagur ·
little off the topic how long do you have that killer midi to voices? 😊
I pray at nights that it will come to me... 😈
this, or any other new primitives to play with... 😉
MyCo ·
kirkagur wrote: little off the topic how long do you have that killer midi to voices? 😊
a half year 😈
drumma ·
Thanks a lot guys more optimised unison code for tidier schematics is here;
Now that the multi voice module is officially in SM, i thought to check this out once more. It works but you still cant change the phase of each voice right? As I understand, the pitch gets merged and there is no way to have a seperate poly phase stream going along with it?
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