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Mickster ·
Im looking for a decent tutorial not like the useless one that comes with SM One that shows you how to make a bass guitar sound or a piano sound etc., with a desciption of what to use why to to use and what it does or if you could use something else insted. The one you get with the program doesnt show you anything really!
infuzion ·
Welcome to SM Mickster! Wiki?
MegaHurtz ·
The description of what to use is there, the why and the how are abstract.
MichaelBenjamin ·
also, have you read the manual? many information is there, on the wiki and at the forum, and more about dsp on the net. for a roundup on how to do some basic sounds check out sound on sound synth secrets.
trogluddite ·
I can understand your frustration - many people here are lucky to have had experience before SM of making synths or programming. Without that background knowledge it is hard even to know what questions to ask - and many of the answers seem to be in a foreign language - I still feel like that sometimes, after years of doing this stuff. One problem is that your examples of real instruments (bass guitar, piano) are among the hardest sounds to emulate - to our ears they are just lovely sounds, but in acoustic terms they are very complex - that's why plugins that do them well are often so damn expensive to buy. Learning the abstract stuff about how sound and synthesis work really is important, even if it's just to get the meaning of all the jargon we use here - it won't be what you want to hear, but there are very few short cuts, digital signal processing is a complex subject that takes time to learn, just like learning to be a mechanic/doctor/astronaut or anything else. OutSim is a very small company serving a tiny niche minority of geeky people; so sadly there aren't the resources to provide the beginners guides etc. that the big software houses can. Meanwhile, we will help you all we can - there's no such thing as a 'stupid' question on this forum - but bear in mind that we all have our own projects/jobs/families etc. so you need to be as resourceful as you can to get a grounding in the basic principles. Hop this doesn't put you off SM - it is all well worth it the end.
MichaelBenjamin ·
with that amount of empathy i cant imagine you having the slightest mild variation of aspergers syndrome. i suggest you put that under false diagnosis and look for another badge to put on your personal shortcomings.
aliasant ·
MichaelBenjamin wrote: with that amount of empathy i cant imagine you having the slightest mild variation of aspergers syndrome. i suggest you put that under false diagnosis and look for another badge to put on your personal shortcomings.
he he. I think you got that all wrong Michael.
Having Aspergers, mild or not, does not mean that you cant feel. In my case its the complete opposite. I feel way to much. I seem to be extremely sensitive to any changes in my surroundings or inside my own body and that is not always that fun but it can be very helpful in many situations. My experience is that Aspergers are very very sensitive but some are the opposite. Or at least they appear to be. Besides. Having a "mild" Aspergers might be a really good thing. Personally I couldn't imagine living a life without my "abilities".
Aspergers is truly a very vague diagnoses and in many cases not the best diagnose but, again in my case, I had to do 3 months of different tests to measure different functions of my "brain" + a full checkup of my life from kindergarten to today. Its not something that is labeled on someone on a whim even though I guess it can be in some cases. So. To Luddite... 🙂 Your one of the “High Performance” Aspergers and I think you should be proud of that. Mild or not. Think X-Men or something 😉
MichaelBenjamin ·
sounds like it would be a good thing if all humans could happily suffer under the various effects of the nebulous aspergers syndrome? maybe its just the first glance of the übermensch? so you got my vote. i want that too.
Acrobat ·
aliasant wrote: I had to do 3 months of different tests to measure different functions of my "brain" + a full checkup of my life from kindergarten to today.
Are you talking seriously about all those medical treatments? I am happily mad as I am, at least I didn't have to spend any money to know it! 😈
aliasant ·
Acrobat wrote: aliasant wrote: I had to do 3 months of different tests to measure different functions of my "brain" + a full checkup of my life from kindergarten to today.
Are you talking seriously about all those medical treatments? I am happily mad as I am, at least I didn't have to spend any money to know it! 😈
Lol Well. it wasnt "Treatments" It was tests. I think about 30 different tests to measure different parts of the brain. Like reaktion, 3d perception and so on. Like small IQ tests for different skills. It was actually pretty fun doing them.
i too enjoy my semi madness alot 🙂 but getting this diagnose made me understand a lot about my life and why I am what I am and were I am today. It also helped me figure out ways to counter attack were the problems makes life harder. For instance. I cannot learn to do anything by routine. Everything I do is almost as if I did it the first time. Even such basic things as brushing my teeths. Something I never managed to learn but now I have, sort of, snared myself into tripping on my toothbrush and paste in the morning so I wont miss doin it. If I dont see the brush or paste I will miss brushing all together. I have to place all the things I need to do in places were I cant miss them. Before I knew about Asperger and had the diagnose I simply just missed doing mostly everything except what I stumbled upon. Made life kinda hard. Take bills as an example. Who wants to pay them? I was very good at placing bills were I wouldnt see them. Like a drawer or even the trashbin...... lol I learn more about my self every day since I got the diagnose and can see things from a new perspective.
So its not all bad having a vague diagnose as Aspergers but there are many that have more severe Apsergers with more negative sides then me. Most of my experience is that it is positive. At least now since I learned how to deal with it.
And to be honest... I think there are a lot of guys in this community that would be given the same diagnose if tested 🙂 Aspergers isnt dangerous or weird. Its just a brain the functions a little different. In some ways better and in others maybe a little worse. It is really hard to see Aspergers as a "syndrome" when it is as much, as Michael said, a part of ones personality.
Science just needed a name for what they couldnt understand...
enough 🙂
aliasant ·
Oh. btw Acrobat 🙂 Medcare is free here so I didnt spend any money doing all them tests 😉
sunsynth ·
Ali do u have some links about your 'aspergers syndrome' that even a damaged brain like mine can understand?!
and I don't wanna 'swagger with my diseases' (a German saying) here... 😇
btw: strange drift from tut 2 this 😮
aliasant ·
sunsynth wrote: Ali do u have some links about your 'aspergers syndrome' that even a damaged brain like mine can understand?!
and I don't wanna 'swagger with my diseases' (a German saying) here... 😇
btw: strange drift from tut 2 this 😮
Lol i guess you sort of got us back on track.. almost. now you want a tutorial about Aspergers Syndrome 🙂
Sorry. No links other then some swedish ones. Just google it and prepare yourself cause every explanation will be different. Everyone think they knows exactly what Aspergers is because they know someone.... But since the diagnose is so loose its almost always different for each case.
I can say this.
You dont get the diagnose just because you get a "hit" on one indicator or even 2 or 3. There has to be several hits + a background from childhood that backs that up combined with your current situation perhaps.
Sorry about the drift but Michael opened something up maybe best closed 😉
Acrobat ·
aliasant wrote: Oh. btw Acrobat 🙂 Medcare is free here so I didnt spend any money doing all them tests 😉
I didn't want to sound mean, I just have a different approach about psycological states and social behaviour, evidently. I met a lot of people in my life making sports, studies,music, vacation and I always found very interesting people, well anyone of them could be easely considered "mad". Some were also "evil" in some way! 😉 Everyone has its doubts, feelings, hopes and fears and I think it's much better to rely on friends and relations in those cases. They know you much better and they really can help you. 😉
MegaHurtz ·
aliasant wrote: Take bills as an example. Who wants to pay them? I was very good at placing bills were I wouldnt see them. Like a drawer or even the trashbin...... lol
maybe I have aspergers aswell. 🙂
Acrobat ·
MegaHurtz wrote: maybe I have aspergers aswell. 🙂
Yes probably each geek like us is likely to "have" it... 😀
trogluddite ·
@mickster Hope we haven't completely put you off now, I promise we're all mad in the nicest possible way! I inadvertently triggered this little group therapy session with a comment in a post on a completely unrelated thread; my sincere apologies. Hit us with your DSP related queries, and we'll see if we can get you up and running.
oddson ·
Given how frequent the 'I'm new to SynthMaker and want to make a sample player' enquires are I think an entry-level tutorial on a sample player would be a great idea.
Start with the stock wave-player and some high-level modules and then start extending through subsequent lessons to handle velocity and zones etc. When a new topic requires deeper understanding of the program we could start making 'side lessons' with links to them... sort of 'prerequisites' when a new topic brings with it new matrial to cover.
The existing 'multi-sampler' tutorial could perhaps be altered slightly to fit this structure... as it is now it assumes too much basic skills to be helpful for those that want to start with sample-based instruments instead of the usual OSC-Filter-Effects subtractive model.
Or we could just go back to being curt and dismissive to them... 😈
trogluddite ·
Creating some new tutorials is a great idea, and I'm up for helping - if we can do it in collaboration with some less experienced users, that would really help to get the 'tone' of them right.
It's easy too to forget that 'new to SM' and 'new to DSP (in general)' are two different things - for instance, in the basic tutorial part one, I see an amp referred to as an 'attenuation device' - I don't intend any criticism of the people who've invested so much of their time to create those resources for us; just that I get the impression that SM is now reaching a wider audience to whom the terminology and concepts themselves could be a barrier. I remember when I first came here being directed to search for 'xxxx', looking at the results, and thinking 'You what?'
If you are new to SM, and are reading this - where do you see the weaknesses in the current tutorials? Do the links we direct you to help, or do they just confuse things even more?
oddson ·
trogluddite wrote: ... for instance, in the basic tutorial part one, I see an amp referred to as an 'attenuation device' ...
😊 hmm... "The solution is to add something to lower the volume."
'Attenuation' isn't specific to DSP and it's a perfectly germane and apposite expression.... but I do love the $9 words. 😉
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