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philter5 ·
Aim of the project is to create one (or more) nice instrument or effect with pseudo 3d graphics style . nothing else.if somebody is interested to start a collaborative project just pm me or post here. in the last few weeks i have had A LOT of ideas and made a lot of example projects , but most of them contain the GUI only and need to be filled with audio stuff 😀 if you want to help me with this you´re always welcome 😀
phil
philter5 ·
here are two possible projects...
sunsynth ·
Man - i like the 1st one 🙂
had a similar idea 3 years ago but no clue how to start it...
With u and this thread i got new motivation 2 make this real 🙂
i had probs to shrink the sliders when they are in the back position! dunno if it's possible now?!
Acrobat ·
me too i like the first one most, looks quite like Jomox Resonators...
philter5 ·
sunsynth wrote: Man - i like the 1st one 🙂
had a similar idea 3 years ago but no clue how to start it...
With u and this thread i got new motivation 2 make this real 🙂
i had probs to shrink the sliders when they are in the back position! dunno if it's possible now?!
don´t know what you mean with shrinking in back position 😕
sunsynth ·
If you have all sliders in the front position the sliders are big... and if you move them to the back/rear pos they shrink in 3D - right?
Habe da wohl zu sehr 3D gesehen 😉 übertreibe es wohl mit der räumlichen Tiefenwirkung... maybe 2 much 3D look 😉 and i overdo the depth effect ...
P.S: my Denglish is always perfect 🙂
philter5 ·
sunsynth wrote: If you have all sliders in the front position the sliders are big... and if you move them to the back/rear pos they shrink in 3D - right?
Habe da wohl zu sehr 3D gesehen 😉 übertreibe es wohl mit der räumlichen Tiefenwirkung... maybe 2 much 3D look 😉 and i overdo the depth effect ...
P.S: my Denglish is always perfect 🙂
ah now i know what you mean. but why do you think that´s "too much" 3d Effect??? that´s exactly what looks great on a GUI like in the first image ! i made some of the shrinking sliders in knobman and it needs more time than a standard fader but is definitely possible. or did you mean shrinking a bitmap fader and not a animated file? that would make sense because of the big file size when you have for example 32 faders and they are all stitched animations.
philter5 ·
...but even with bitmap faders inside sm it works... remember your pm about your slot animation... if you don´t know what i mean just pm me... 😉
sunsynth ·
Hahaha u got me Phil...
...maybe later in this project (PM)
show me a knobman 3D slider if u like! 😮
philter5 ·
🙂
sunsynth ·
COOL PHIL 🙂 🙂 🙂
Keep on doing! My next project is in 3D - promised 😍
philter5 ·
sunsynth wrote: COOL PHIL 🙂 🙂 🙂
Keep on doing! My next project is in 3D - promised 😍
that´s cool, i am looking forward to your project but you don´t have to promise me... funny enough that i teach you something that you´ve teached me before, okay i am not quite sure if my way is exactly the same than you used with your slot ani but i think it is... 😀 keep on doing, too! and let me know if you want to collaborate or need GUI help for your project.
phil
loopeytunes ·
Would this be more of a 3d perspective overview of a slider?? I have the knobman file but I made the slider and track in photoshop. I can make more if you like but with a more realistic look to them, I quickly jotted this one down 😀
philter5 ·
here is the osm with the image, makes it a little bit easier for you to adjust the sliders.
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: here is the osm with the image, makes it a little bit easier for you to adjust the sliders.
Do you want me to make a few sliders and knobs on this?
Loopey
philter5 ·
loopeytunes wrote: philter5 wrote: here is the osm with the image, makes it a little bit easier for you to adjust the sliders.
Do you want me to make a few sliders and knobs on this?
Loopey
only if you like. i don´t want to force you, hehe
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: only if you like. i don´t want to force you, hehe
lol.
Where abouts on the Pseudo-3D Background image do you wan the sliders and knobs?. the reason I ask is because of the different perspectives the background has.
How many sliders and knobs do you need?
loopey
philter5 ·
just do it as you please, i don´t want to make any rules for this project because it´s more just for fun than a serious project.
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: just do it as you please, i don´t want to make any rules for this project because it´s more just for fun than a serious project.
here's a rough version, I rushed it to see what you thought of it..lol.
philter5 ·
...you were faster than me,
but your faders look a lot better than mine. 😍 great work! now that we are two people in this project we can think about what we build. a mixer ? or perhaps a synth? here is my osm
philter5 ·
just had a look at your osm and i saw you used animated knobs. to reduce the filesize you can also use a bitmap knob for this one i´ll see if i can build a nice 3d switch or something
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: ...you were faster than me,
but your faders look a lot better than mine. 😍 great work! now that we are two people in this project we can think about what we build. a mixer ? or perhaps a synth? here is my osm
lol.
Glad you like it
A mixer sounds GREAT to me 😀
So just to let you know, I'm not much good at making thing's(synths etc.) within sythnmaker as of yet, but the gui work I can do.. 😉
Loopey
philter5 ·
BTW: i think you made the sliders in knobman. have you animated the slider top with the zoom function? or does it keep its size? can´t really see any difference. but doesn´t matter, looks really nice. 😍 okay then let´s try to make a simple mixer. i´ll add some audio stuff... 🙂
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: BTW: i think you made the sliders in knobman. have you animated the slider top with the zoom function? or does it keep its size? can´t really see any difference. but doesn´t matter, looks really nice. 😍 okay then let´s try to make a simple mixer. i´ll add some audio stuff... 🙂
I made the slider in photoshop and then imported it into knobman, I did Use the zoom function but with the depth of the Interface It wouldn't shrink a very lot(only fractions but I can make it shrink even more if you like (obviously I couldn't make it too small cos it'll look silly) 🙂
Loopey
philter5 ·
i tried to make a simple switch and added some audio stuff. duplicated every fader ,added stereo vca ,a simple mute switch (stereo, not per channel) and a switch to link the left and right channel . when linked the left fader controls both.
Jay ·
Looking great guys! it would make a cool and novel addition to a plugin to be able to have a normal "flat view" and the ability to switch to your 3D perspective view!
I will try and contribute something to the project! got my thinking cap on 🙂
best regards
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: i tried to make a simple switch and added some audio stuff. duplicated every fader ,added stereo vca ,a simple mute switch (stereo, not per channel) and a switch to link the left and right channel . when linked the left fader controls both.
Very nice addition 😀
Once you've got the main mixer down, I'll redraw the amount of faders we need with a better perspective to give it that ultra 3D feel.
I'll try and think of some cool addition we could have 😀
Loopey
loopeytunes ·
Jay wrote: Looking great guys! it would make a cool and novel addition to a plugin to be able to have a normal "flat view" and the ability to switch to your 3D perspective view!
wouldn't that be like 2 synths in one??
Would the eat the CPU? If not then it'd be a cool addition but we'll see what phil says 😉
Loopey
philter5 ·
Jay wrote: Looking great guys! it would make a cool and novel addition to a plugin to be able to have a normal "flat view" and the ability to switch to your 3D perspective view!
I will try and contribute something to the project! got my thinking cap on 🙂
best regards
great idea with the view switch! i tried something similar in my drum plugin (but this one is no pseudo 3d)
When the exe is loaded, press ALT on your PCkeyboard to switch the view
loopeytunes wrote:
wouldn't that be like 2 synths in one??
Would the eat the CPU?
Loopey
Of course a synth / mixer with 2 different GUI will be larger/more CPU hungry than one with single GUI but i think as long as the 2 GUI´s are not active at the same time this will not be a problem. there is no reason to double the audio stuff , too
here is a second example with my specdrum plugin. it is not hosted here because of it´s filesize. it contains a lot of images and it is bigger than 5 MB (5MB = maximum file size for attachments here in the forum)
Same here,When the exe is loaded, press ALT on your PCkeyboard to switch the view
http://www.box.net/shared/ag9o5ujjq6
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: here is a second example with my specdrum plugin. it is not hosted here because of it´s filesize. it contains a lot of images and it is bigger than 5 MB (5MB = maximum file size for attachments here in the forum)
Same here,When the exe is loaded, press ALT on your PCkeyboard to switch the view
http://www.box.net/shared/ag9o5ujjq6
That's nice 😍
what type of mixer are we going to be doing?
Here's a background image we could possibly have??
philter5 ·
😍 😍 😍 looks really great!
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: 😍 😍 😍 looks really great!
You ought to see the sliders!!!! 😉
I'll get it put up when I've sorted it.
philter5 ·
...looks like i have to rename the project, from Pseudo 3d to Photorealistic 3D 😀
philter5 ·
just thought about jay´s idea with the view switch. what about something like this one: 😀
original-music ·
😕
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: just thought about jay´s idea with the view switch. what about something like this one: 😀
is it going to be pulsating like that all the time or is it going to fade into the next view like that?
fading into the next view like that yes but I don't think pulsating all the time. 😉
philter5 ·
LOL no no i just made this animation here looped hehe 😉
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: LOL no no i just made this animation here looped hehe 😉
phew!!! lol!
I'm just onto making the top view now so I'll send you that and then we can see what the morphing looks like 😀
Personally I think it'll look great!! 😍
loopeytunes ·
loopeytunes wrote: philter5 wrote: LOL no no i just made this animation here looped hehe 😉
phew!!! lol!
I'm just onto making the top view now so I'll send you that and then we can see what the morphing looks like 😀
Personally I think it'll look great!! 😍
here's both views:
I've just realised that I've put a "n" in Pseudo plus i haven't spelt i right!!!..lol.
loopeytunes ·
here's what I got so far (done in photoshop) I need to make the sliders work in knobman now.
original-music ·
how are you making your 3d elements ?
loopeytunes ·
loopeytunes wrote: here's what I got so far (done in photoshop) I need to make the sliders work in knobman now.
loopeytunes ·
original-music wrote: how are you making your 3d elements ?
with photoshop 😉
MegaHurtz ·
nice 🙂
loopeytunes ·
here's a better more realistic look:
loopeytunes ·
@Phil - I've changed the faders and added some switches. Let me know what you think of it and if you like it then I'll sort them out in knobman and put it in a schematic so you can do your thing. 😉
loopeytunes ·
here's what I got so far:
I can now import them into knobman and synthmaker 😀
philter5 ·
looks great, i like it! i tried to make some knobs and sliders (all in knobman, no photoshop 🙁 ) too but they did not look half as good as yours 😍 i will add some simple audio stuff or a scope/vu . 😀
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: looks great, i like it! i tried to make some knobs and sliders (all in knobman, no photoshop 🙁 ) too but they did not look half as good as yours 😍 i will add some simple audio stuff or a scope/vu . 😀
😀
I'm going to bed soon so I'll get them into synthmaker tomorrow and post the .osm up here tomorrow.
By the way what do you mean by scope?? 😕 I've never heard of a scope apart from rifle scopes..lol
philter5 ·
loopeytunes wrote: ...
By the way what do you mean by scope?? 😕 I've never heard of a scope apart from rifle scopes..lol
hehe no i am not talking about weapons here. search for scope in the toolbox, it´s some kind of wave / signal display
Jay ·
aha real nice Philter5 & loopytunes!
That's exactly what i was talking about with the changeable view! very nice guys 😍 it
Best Regards
loopeytunes ·
Jay wrote: aha real nice Philter5 & loopytunes!
That's exactly what i was talking about with the changeable view! very nice guys 😍 it
Best Regards
Thank You 😉
Your Idea 😀
loopeytunes ·
Here's the osm 😀 :
Phil let me know what else I can do 🙂
philter5 ·
do what ever you like!
philter5 ·
some switches/buttons for mute and solo would be nice. or do you think it´s better to take the existing switch for this, too?? i have quickly linked the slider together so that they have the same value and added right double click to switch the view
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: some switches/buttons for mute and solo would be nice. or do you think it´s better to take the existing switch for this, too?? i have quickly linked the slider together so that they have the same value and added right double click to switch the view
nice 😀
I'll make some new switches for the mute/solo buttons.
any colour in mind for these two? :
Solo = green Mute = orange
philter5 ·
choose a colour you like. and a small hint: i saw that used a stiched bitmap for the link switch. for a 3( or more) way switch it makes sense to use it but you used it in the bitmap switch . looks like this when i make the view area bigger:
watch out that you render single images in knoman for cases like this. or render a stitched switch ( here is a nice example from sunsynth,including knoman file and osm. [old link]) but set the rendering frames to 2 before exporting. activate on of the options here and don´t forget to press the "set" button or your changes will not be saved.
loopeytunes ·
cheers I didn't know that 😊
I'll ake that into mind for the next ones i do 😀
philter5 ·
no problem. 😀
philter5 ·
little update, i will run some tests on the audio routing now. i left some selfmade leds in the schematic but the look horrible 😕
loopeytunes ·
there's only audio in the left speaker 🙂
I'll get some LED made 😉
loopeytunes ·
Here's the LEDs in a seperate .osm it's a smaller file size 🙂
Hopefully this is not too much messing about for you.
I just can't seem to get the Stitched Strip to work in your switches for some reason, I set the width and height to the same size as the PNG which was 42 by 42 and 2 cells but it doesn't work correctly, the image of the switches only show half of the image then you click it and it shows the other half 😕
🙂
philter5 ·
loopeytunes wrote: Here's the LEDs in a seperate .osm it's a smaller file size 🙂
Hopefully this is not too much messing about for you.
I just can't seem to get the Stitched Strip to work in your switches for some reason, I set the width and height to the same size as the PNG which was 42 by 42 and 2 cells but it doesn't work correctly, the image of the switches only show half of the image then you click it and it shows the other half 😕
🙂
when you use the stitched switch from sunsynth you have to change a setting in knobman. Set the Alignment to Horizontal and then press "Set" on the bottom.
philter5 ·
hey loppeytunes sorry i am a little busy atm but i´ll be back soon 😉
loopeytunes ·
philter5 wrote: hey loppeytunes sorry i am a little busy atm but i´ll be back soon 😉
no probs mate 🙂
loopeytunes ·
Hey Phil, when we getting this going again?
Loopey
nix ·
I am busy with SM stuff, seems like there's no end of projects for me. I might chime in though with audio stuff( gain make-up panner?(Ithink that's what it's called)) or I can mess about with some stuff from 3ds max if you need 3d elements. hmm, if you have any requests for lit 3d animations or stills loopey or phil let me know here 8D
philter5 ·
hey loopey after a hard and long time without a Computer (and without SM 🙁 )i´m finally back 🙂 if you find some time between your other great GUI projects let´s get this project going !!! 😀
phil
loopeytunes ·
ready when you are phil.
LT
philter5 ·
...here we go loopey. 😀
trogluddite ·
Couldn't resist having a little peek - that's looking very nice indeed, keep up the good work! 🙂
Jay ·
Looking good! 😀
oh yeh, i made a skewed vu and a nice 3d panel for this a while ago! lemmie see if i still have them! 🙂
best regards
Edit: Aye here it is
philter5 ·
...ah great, sounds very interesting with the skewed vu jay i´ve had two or three try´s with the skewed VU but all failed. also the skewed 3d view from a Keyboard .... i´ll post them later perhaps one of you can find the error 😀
philter5 ·
...hey jay the background graphic looks VERY cool too 😍
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