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Dj-Grobe ·
Very interesant article about new multitouch devices availables just in few days and more ! Another clear example where go the technology.........and another clear example the multitouch be a BIG MARKET this year.....
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/01/0 ... #more-8972
Dj-Grobe ·
From CES 2010 "Nvidia CEO: 2010 Is The Year Of The Tablet Computer "
: )
sunsynth ·
😉 keep on pushing DJ-Grobe 😉
infuzion ·
Another reason to learn C++ 😉
BTW, their observation of Apple-brainwashing is funny: And, oh yeah, Apple: Here’s the power of Apple: PC makers, who have been shipping tablets for years, and who have shipped alternative form factors for years more, are accused of ripping off an Apple product that isn’t yet public, and about which most of us know nothing about (including, indeed, if it actually exists in the form we think it does). Not only that, but sight unseen, I’ve heard many people who assume that the Apple model of this currently-nonexistent product category will be superior, even though they don’t know what OS it’ll run, what it’ll do, what it’ll look like, what size it’ll be, or what it’ll cost.
MegaHurtz ·
Probbably some truth behind this.. But then again hard to tell if they run intel.
mwvdlee ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: From CES 2010 "Nvidia CEO: 2010 Is The Year Of The Tablet Computer "
: )
Wow! They said the same thing about 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005, but this time they're telling the truth!
Dj-Grobe ·
Yes, they say truth this time...................the reason is simple. Apple always show the way to go, and apple plain launch tablet soon, that is one reason due PC comunity try this time move more faster than apple.
Honestly i think the PC world lacks of fresh ideas...............and always move some steps back..... Thank god exist Apple....... 😀 All this FEVER start due simple reason..............IPHONE ! (multitouch portable device like your personal ultra portable PC PLUS PHONE............IPHONE IS RELALLY MORE THAN SIMPLE PHONE) Simple like that !
The same happen years ago with: PC, USB, FIREWIRE, PCI, SUDDEN MOTION SENSORS ON NOTEBOOKS, AMBIENT LIGHT SENSORS, MULTITOUCH, PALMS (remember the newton pocket PC?) , ALL IN ONE PCS, AND LARGE LIST OF THINGS 🙂 I CAN FORGOT WHEN APPLE DECIDE REMOVE FLOPPY, AND ALL PC COMUNITY JUST LAUGHED.....
APPLE REALLY RULE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INOVATION.......that is the truth , and DONT FORGOT i am PC guy, not apple fanatic.
Want more clear example................. just deeply check the number of multitouch LCD monitors, multitouch tablets and all in one multitouch PCs intrduced in the market in the last year, the list is really long !................lol........again APPLE! PC world really dont know how use the multitouch in really usefull way yet........all demos you can see are just for ZOOM and totate images jijijij...........APPLE already have wonderfull gesttures available for touchpads availables on the notebooks and the new multitouch mouse..............again PC world lacks of fresh ideas., PC world should be more daring, more extreme.
Anyway thanks to apple for make all this possible. Thank you APPLE !
mwvdlee ·
Apple certainly does some very fine product. They seem to have a knack for copying of buying inventions and turning them into good products. Of all the inventions listed, however, only multitouch-on-a-phone was truely a first for apple (AFAIK). All other inventions were invented and used outside Apple well before (although I'm not quite sure about ambient light sensors). Things like that don't really seem to catch on in the PC world, probably because any player with a new invention is just a small player in a much larger world. When Apple decides to use the same things in their products, it's automatically the standard for the entire Apple world. Don't get me wrong, Apple makes great products, but they're not the godlike creatures some make them out to be. Mostly Apple just has incredibly good marketing that allows them to rewrite history, twist the present, cloud the future and, indeed, make pretty products that attract people.
MegaHurtz ·
They charge you triple for slightly better memory. Really the rest of the mac is intel.. They decided intels were yust better.
aliasant ·
MegaHurtz wrote: They charge you triple for slightly better memory. Really the rest of the mac is intel.. They decided intels were yust better.
Eh
Not quite.
Besides. I had a Macpro that I bought for 4000usd Three years later I sold it for 2000usd
Thats 1 big part of its value. You can actually sell it and get something for it.
Then there is OS X. Very big part of a Mac.
Unfortunatly for me I have to use windows since I use SM way to much. When I sold my last MacPro I built a new very nice PC for the money but I still miss OSX every day. Win7 is good but its still windows. 🙁
Dj-Grobe ·
mwvdlee wrote: Apple certainly does some very fine product. They seem to have a knack for copying of buying inventions and turning them into good products. Of all the inventions listed, however, only multitouch-on-a-phone was truely a first for apple (AFAIK). All other inventions were invented and used outside Apple well before (although I'm not quite sure about ambient light sensors). Things like that don't really seem to catch on in the PC world, probably because any player with a new invention is just a small player in a much larger world. When Apple decides to use the same things in their products, it's automatically the standard for the entire Apple world. Don't get me wrong, Apple makes great products, but they're not the godlike creatures some make them out to be. Mostly Apple just has incredibly good marketing that allows them to rewrite history, twist the present, cloud the future and, indeed, make pretty products that attract people.
Sorry but all invetion i list, are used in MASIVE way first from apple (about USB i make reference to USB 2.0, USB 1.0 was introduced at same time on PC and APPLE world) Firewire is invention from apple, nobody use before apple, and is used in masive way by digital cameras for years! Same for lot of things, i repeat the list is really large, specially if we start talk about software from apple.
Anyway, i not tell they are the inventors of that things and i not tell nobody use before, i just make mention some times they use new techology in masive way and SATISFACTORILY before others and when that happen we have som BOMBs in the market : )
I think we talking of the same, probably i not explain correctly, remember my english no is very good
Apple no invent the computer, but they invent the PC, yes the personal computer 1976 apple 1
wozniack create the monster! steve jobs just tell to wozniack !! hey we can sell this !! : ) and the real concept of personal computer and Apple born !
Apple no is the inventor of PDA, in 1980 Psion PLC defined the PDA and in 1984 Psion PLC launched its first organizer, but.....in 1993 -Apple tried to copy Psion's success, Apple launched the Newton MessagePad the first to use touch-sensitive screens and handwriting recognition software in a ortable device. Newton is one of that products of apple never reach the TOP of xmas sales, anyway the innovation on newton change the history few years later. The term PDA was first used on January 7, 1992 by Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
Ambient ligh sensor is really simple thing, i cant believe nobody from the PC world think on that simple and usefull feature, the first time i see backlight on notebook keyboard is on Apple Powerbook, etc etc etc. Apple is plagued of innovative details.
You no need be the inventor, just need to know how implement and how introduce inventions inside the market and APPLE make that in perfect way, and usually they are the first to implement new technology SATISFACTORILY and all the market follow, that is really amazing due they just BUY little companys with great ideas, and then turn that ideas in a massive super products, somebody know somthing about fingerworks? Lol check: http://web.archive.org/web/200010210310 ... works.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/200008301518 ... frame.html
FingerWorks was a gesture recognition company based in the United States, known mainly for its TouchStream multi-touch keyboard. Founded by John Elias and Wayne Westerman of the University of Delaware in 1998, it produced a line of multi-touch products including the iGesture Pad and the TouchStream keyboard, which were particularly helpful for people suffering from RSI and other medical conditions. The keyboards were immediately discontinued when the company's assets were acquired by Apple Inc. in early 2005.
Before apple buy this company, fingerworks is very very close to disapear!
Want another clear example: iTunes Store apple not invent the "music stores", but they do what the discographic industry could not do in the last years.....really awesome!
Apple no is the inventor of all in the world LOL i know that, i no want sound like Apple fanatic........but they present at the end of this month new TABLET and is probably they present to the world another massive product, is abslutly possible this year be the YEAR OF TABLET and we se MULTITOUCH up in the soup! jijij
The more important success in the history of apple after apple 1 is the iphone, now the market look that success with nvy and suspicion and learn the lesson, like ballmer......check this video and see what is the opinion of ballmer after ipohone is anounced by steve jobs in macworld:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo
Apple really can change the history, they already do that, and probably the do again at the end of this month. Bets regards!
Dj-Grobe ·
OH! juste one more comment!! i no want start some of that battles about PC vs Apple.......please !!
Anyway check this older and funny video related to iphone prsentation in 2007 jajaja
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuDAzzKnz8&feature=fvw
Cya guys !
infuzion ·
This says it all: Apple Unveils New Product-Unveiling Product
mwvdlee ·
I just want to add one thing and then I'm done on this topic: Check the factual history of personal computers, then compare it with "popular believe". They really do have a knack for rewriting history in the public mind, facts tell a completely different story. Read up on it and you'll see how and why Apple got so big; it had nothing to do with the products and all with Jobs' sense of business and marketing.
MegaHurtz ·
About the revolution in the music biz.. Napster. About the revolutionary macine called a cpu..IBM. About the booming telefone industry.. Nokia. About the fast processors these days.. AMD/Intel. About the first music machine ever.. Atari. About the graphics computers.. Silicon Graphics, and Commodore. About the touch interface.. Artpad. About the motion sensors.. Nintendo. and so on and so on.
trogluddite ·
Best thing sinced sliced bread as we say in the UK.
Dj-Grobe ·
Another goal from APPLE !!
http://www.apple.com/ipad/
TABLET FOR JUST 499 WITH MULTITOUCH !
😍
mwvdlee ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: http://www.apple.com/ipad/
Just read the details on it. It's basically an iPhone with a bigger screen and less connectivity. Not necessarily a bad thing, but don't expect a full-blown computer. It's focused on consuming media rather than productivity or creative work.
Dj-Grobe wrote: TABLET FOR JUST 499 WITH MULTITOUCH !
...with 16GB flash and no 3G. For just 849 or so, you get 64GB with 3G (telephone networking). The cheap version is very close in features, price and performance to, for instance, the Archos 9 netbook tablet. The expensive version is a bit harder to compare, since alternatives are either far cheaper but without 3G or far more expensive and powerful; the $849 iPad seems to be right in the middle of these.
All in all it seems like a very competitive device with price and features close to comparable systems. Essentially it'd mostly come down to whether you prefer the the iPad's modified iPhone OS, Google's Android of Windows 7 Starter edition. Oh, and multitouch ofcourse.
Dj-Grobe ·
Hi, i know what is ipad , i prefer for tablet one unit HP TX2z, is 100% multituch, and new odels (models laucnhes 6 onths ago) fix soem heat issues etc etc.
Im happy with this apple hardware release due this just push to other vendros to launch similar products, just that ! With this launch from apple, the arket finally is movig in the direction of really portable and powerfull devices.
Honestly i really not plainbuy ipad, probably i do, really dont know, .........but at this moment i prefer TX2z from HP, 100% multitouch powerfull table, at really fo price, more bigger screen 21.1 : )
Soon i buy again another tx2z (new models), right now i have a desktop HP touchsmart 300-1000 , multitouch machine, and is really wonderfull.
The tablet market see soon a big growth and all prices go down and everybody have more options for choose : )
😉
Dj-Grobe ·
I forgot coment with 499 U$ you cna buy itable
Few dollars more, and you ccan convert in a really cheap lemur:
http://hexler.net/software/touchosc
Or this: http://www.pablomartin.com/2009/11/16/d ... he-iphone/
That aplicatiosn are for iphone, but can be ported to ipad in just few days, due ipad use OS based on iphone OS, basically is the same.
No bad for just 499U$ 🙂
Who want 3g? jijiji
infuzion ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: Few dollars more, and you can convert in a really cheap lemur: http://hexler.net/software/touchosc
The application allows to remote control and receive feedback from software and hardware that implements the OSC protocol such as Pure Data, Max/MSP/Jitter, OSCulator, VDMX, Resolume Avenue 3, Modul8, Plogue Bidule, Reaktor, Quartz Composer, Vixid VJX16-4, Supercollider, FAW Circle, vvvv and others.
So don't you think that you are barking up the wrong tree? You need to switch to developing for the iPad, & bump the OSC thread, instead of begging for multitouch for SM.
Dj-Grobe ·
Please no misunderstand my words product of my basic and bad english:
I no think ipad pr Apple is the best thing of the world, i just comment new prducts like this just push to other to follow that way. When apple launch iphone every other phone companys and others just laugh......few years after, everybody follow the model....
I not are apple defensor, but the iphone phenomena is really big and is a stigma over Apple and over all the market, all envy the recent success of Apple with products like the iphone. Now this ipad probably follow same road, and other company this time not laugh and probably follow and copy or try develope better similar products.
What you think do Ballmer pesenting the HP’s Slate one month before Apple present ipad?...........you think is coincidence? check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSacJyED52g
Oh my god is very similar to ipad!! lol Somebody think is a coincidence? i think NO lol For me is really funny and good see reactions of big companys like HP and MS against Apple. One month before of know the product Apple plain launch they present amazing similar product? .........this time Ballmer not laugh like a monkey about Apple product : ) and big company like HP just no wait idly. About this effect im talking, imagine what happen soon if ipad really result in a great device and originate big success like with iphone?
I stay in the correct way...... i work for windows world MR........... usually begginers, hobbist or pro simple users no want expend big amounts of money and want simple system, in that segment my software is very usefull, and i not invent that.....my cusotmers comment that.
My concept is very different to lemur...i know personally few guys buy lemur and then just sell on the web due they not have the basic knowledge for create the GUI interface they wants o just not have the time to do that or they just think is a expensive tool for just use like a lcd touchscreen! Most real interesant things you can do with lemur need really some advanced knowledge of maths and some basic ideas of programation, lemur is more that simple group of dragable objects on the screen is a really powerfull and complex tool!
My software is a simple fun pkg ready to use, have limitations, buts is ready to use. Is a non expensive touchscreen MIDI controller for dj world. You no need understand nothing, just follow the setup guide and DONE ! that is the way i follow.............
SM is impresive and awesome tool ......... why i should move of this exelent tool? Why you no move and got to c++ for build your projects and your longed mouse wheel module ???? The answer is simple you continue here like me due SM is a powerfull tool with lacks of features and lots of wishes 😮 but SM is ipresive, awesome, powerfull and faster pataform for build VST or stand alone MIDI or audio appz.
Why malc no port SM to OSX? The answer is simple: Port SM to OSX requiere high amount of work, benefit vs time invested convert that task in something no viable for now. Same for my project, start write form scratch in something like objetive C requiere amounts of time etc etc etc and do that is no viable for now and probably for never !
And again ........why !!?? when SM is impresive, awesome, powerfull, faster and fun !!!
About multitouch i no want be repetitive, just wait for the next months and youll see multitouch up to in your soup ! jijijij
Best regards !
AngularMomentum ·
"TABLET FOR JUST 499 WITH MULTITOUCH"
The only multi that is in it, as it doesn't multitask, so useless really. I also heard they already dubbed it the Itampon instead of Ipad... 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eF0y0If ... r_embedded
MegaHurtz ·
lol.
sunsynth ·
Does it vibrate than 🙂 😍 😊
AngularMomentum ·
Heheh....and this one I like even better... 😉
http://www.funnyordie.co.uk/videos/167d ... rel=player
Dj-Grobe ·
Angular why you comment no is multitask?
About Ipad video i have a firend have a note book and he call from years my PALM !! jajjaaj
mwvdlee ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: Angular why you comment no is multitask?
About Ipad video i have a firend have a note book and he call from years my PALM !! jajjaaj
Possibly because of this: http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2010/01/27 ... textbooks/ Technically, it probably does multitasking. You just cant see more than one application at any single time which is effectively the same level of multitasking my old C64/GEOS could do.
Dj-Grobe ·
Iphone can do multitasking, is a myth no have multitask Iphone have a lot of retrictions from Apple abou that due limits in pcpu and ram resources. I not think the ipad have the same limitatons due have a powerfull cpu and lot of ram in comparation of iphone.
Google about this, is a myth about iphone and ipad no is multitasking. I repeat iphone cna do multitask, specially the new models, have less restrictions due have more ram and better cpu, (3gs model)
A few developers have complained about the wording in the terms of Apple’s SDK that restricts them to one iPhone application running at a time. Dan Dilger at Roughly Drafted on Thursday said it’s only partly true and some developers have misinterpreted the statement.
Everyone knows that the version of OS X in the iPhone is Unix. So why would Apple restrict developers, as they have, in the terms of its SDK, Mr. Dilger asked.
In order to explain what Apple is up to, Mr. Dilger took a look at the problems of WinCE and how, on paper, it looks good but fails in practice. "...WinCE proves that the general idea of having no limitations on third party background processes and concurrently running applications on a handheld device is a bad idea." The observations on Mr. Chris De Herrera, knowledgable about WinCE were cited.
"There are times when having multiple applications running at once causes the foreground application to slow down noticeably. This slowdown is due to the amount of time that the operating system is spending servicing background applications. In these instances, I recommend that users consider performing a soft reset."
The true operation of the iPhone is explained in a little more detail. In fact, applications can suspend and resume after a phone call and are not obliterated. In the current version, the iPod portion can continue to play music while one is surfing in Safari, so the iPhone certainly is using multitasking. The question really goes to the restrictions Apple has placed on developers to make sure the iPhone operates responsively.
The license Microsoft has given to apps in WinCE allow any app to hog the processor and bring a WinCE smartphone to its knees, and, basically, Apple wants to avoid that scenario by placing some minor restrictions on first generation iPhone native apps. The concerns of some developers are overblown, according to Mr. Dilger.
infuzion ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: SM is impresive and awesome tool ......... why i should move of this exelent tool? Why you no move and got to c++ for build your projects and your longed mouse wheel module ???? The answer is simple you continue here like me due SM is a powerfull tool with lacks of features and lots of wishes 😮 but SM is impressive, awesome, powerful and faster platform for build VST or stand alone MIDI or audio appz.
I do not want to sound mean, but if I would have known 5 years ago that SM would go down to 0.8 developers from the 2.4 developers it had before, I definitely would have skipped SM & went with SE or more likely Max\MSP, both of which are now more powerful than SM. SE has an SDK, Max\MSP has NOW multitouch, OSC, video, etc.
Dj-Grobe ·
MAX MSP not have multitouch in native way, somebdoy write a external and only work with TUIO, and you need third party drivers for transform multitouch events from windows 7 to TUIO. I sugested that way for SM but after deep test with MAX MSP, i understand that no is the way, and the correct way is multitouch using windows API , using windows API you have compatibility with any multitouch device in the future, using TUIO make you depend forever of third party driver. Anyway i think very soon MAX/MSP implement in native way, and yea! MAX /MSP is now a powerfull tool, more complicated of SM, but really powerfull..............but at the end of this post i talk about relative new software start generating BIG noise in the market.
infuzion i agree in this point with you, in first place SM need in some moment and if possible tomorrow jijiji accurate time and SDK. With accurate time and SDK the range of possibilities no have limits, only your imagination. With SDK for example, i imagine somebody with good C++ knowledge can write external module for multitouch, you can have you mouse module, others can have MIDI clock module, and all that things we wish from SM and probably that make the live of Malc more easy due he can put more effort on fix bugs, and continue adding new features without loose time in new features : ) The comunity can be a big partner providing new free or comercial externals for SM.
The major fault i see on SM engine is no accurate time available after all this long time. I cant understand how is programed SM, some big mistake should drag from the beginning days........i think on that way due if not....... why we not have accurate time yet?
Anyway, i trust in Malc, specially after see lot of movement on betas in the last weeks, i never see this high activity i see in this last days with Malc fixing bugs and more bugs, and making public new betas very very fast ! Good work Malc! CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT BIG EFFORT!
Is very clear SM need more developers and that is a big reality, and for that need more money, but for pickup more money now, SM need some change for make more atractive for new users right now, SDK and accurate time can create that effect, port to OSX do exactly the same multiplicated by one million (i agree with you about that), but again we arrival to narrow bottleneck......all this things need really hard work and probably need a good group of really good coders....but how? for that need money !! .....bottleneck Probably all what i comment here, is wrong..................only Malc or Jorge can tell to us what is the real and near future for SM and i really apreciate some real comment about this. (Malc if you read this please understand my intention no is push and push and push, but really be good listen your opinion about all this) Like i comment lots of time multitouch feature can create that effect (atract imediatly more developers) and i think help not only to my project, i perfectly can survive without that feature for some months more before move to another programation enviroment...........but i really think on this this for atract more users right now, i see lot of request on forums requesting solution for easy mutitouch programation realed usually with audio, midi, and video appz.
Based in my knowledge SM born with the idea of general programation tool, but due that is very big world, Jorge decide only focus on audio and midi......... Just for one second imagine SM can be a software for create any kind of aplications.....that can be just amazing and can be a big revolution, but for that they really need a big army of coders ! and money !!.........again.........bottleneck
Native module for tracking video can atract to lots of vjs, art workers etc etc.............
I follow very close in the last 2 years software called USINE, created by Oliver Senso, the software bascially can do the same SM can do and more: have SDK, have video tracker module, multitouch, is intuitive, etc etc, just cant create VST and stand alone EXE aplications. If Oliver add feature for create stand alone exe and VST, USINE can simply wipe out to SM from the market, just check this: http://www.sensomusic.com/usine/
I stay 100% convinced SM need some change soon for survive, all i can doo is trust on Malc and Jorge and wait for see what happen. I not agree with lot of things about SM and the slow progress, but after all i trust in Malc, that is my reality, and i continue thinking SM is, powerfull awesome, and fun tool, SM just need fresh air !
Best regards !
infuzion ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: I stay 100% convinced SM need some change soon for survive, all i can doo is trust on Malc and Jorge and wait for see what happen. I not agree wth lot of things, but after all i trust in Malc, that is my reality, and i continue thinking SM is, powerfull awesome, and fun tool.
That's part of the problem, there really is no Malc + Jorge, it is just Malc now for the last... 4 years? And Malc is split between SM & SM-FL (Which I think for Outsim, FL was a good move). Jorge still has a controlling interest in SM, but I haven't seen any of his fingerprints since SMX.
sunsynth ·
I often dream of a big badaboom and jorge presents us SMX mk II in a big show like the Apple guys 😉
I know - I know ...i'm a dreamer
Dj-Grobe ·
I have an idea.............. what if SDK is launched like comercial application? 100U$ for SDK should be ok. I pay for that! What is preoders is available with some big discount? i no have problem to pay inmediatly !
What if SM transform the licence from permanente to some low price renew every 12 months, probably just few dollars?
I think this another faster way to put more developers to work ASAP
I not have trouble to pay a few dollars for see SM have SDK sooooooooon
I payed for SM just 100U$ and never pay nothing again after more of 4 years ! lol For be honest we can complaint a lot about things we wish for SM, but after check of this point of view...... we just pay one time 100U$ lol ................
What you think guys? i think is a good idea !
infuzion ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: What you think guys? i think is a good idea !
Hack the DLL to allow 2-way communication with another DLL. That is the only plausible way right now IMHO.
Dj-Grobe ·
mmmmm i dont think is the best or correct way, i think Malc can enable that in just few hours or few days of work and probably can create some basic documentation for start 😍 the real point is if Malc really want enable SDK o no. Anyway who have the knowledge for do that crack-hack?................. Whats up with support after that hack? What about the legal part or licence? Whats up when Sm is updated to next version with that hack? mmmmmmmmmm no way
We talking now of crack and hack the software, basically i think that no is legal, reverse ingeniering over SM not allowed..... an i no think malc be happy with this jijiji
End of posts for me from now ! large weekend start for me with 3 gigs !
Best regards and have nice weekend !
infuzion ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: mmmmm i dont think is the best or correct way, i think Malc can enable that in just few hours or few days of work...
I think you're underestimating the complexity of SM's code, & the amount of time Malc really has to do this: malc wrote: infuzion wrote: malc wrote: I have to add that I'd be surprised if anything in Beta10 caused a problem with this as there were only a few changes made and even then to areas that seem unrelated to the issues you're describing...
Malc, ever feel that programming SM is like playing this game? 😉
@infuzion: Yeah! 🙂
It took about 3 years before Malc could even approach locking modules in lieu of an SDK, & 2 beta attempts later we still don't have those locking modules. A SDK would on make it 10x more difficult to troubleshoot SM's stability problems, & only in the last few months has SM became stable.
Don't get me wrong, I think a SDK would be awesome, but there are so many fires to put out right now.
Dj-Grobe ·
Im back ! : ) (just for 5 minutes)
Basic access to some functions can be done in relative easy way, probably the first SDK release only can allow access to do really really basic things.........that is possible. I no underestimated the complexity of SM, the work of Malc or the time he need or he invest on SM...... basic SDK is possible for start. Sorry but i think you underestimating the compexity when talk about hack the DLL Im talking about relase very very basic SDK and improve with the time. Infuzion, that can be the correct way? You really think is possible hack the DLL, and that result in someting usefull?
in the last days only infuzion and me talk about this, more opinion are welcome, at this point we talk really out of topic, but i really want listen more opinions.............GURU Oddson are you there?
Best regards !
oddson ·
Dj-Grobe wrote: ...Oddson are you there?
I'm here but I don't know what you want me to say... would an SDK be good. You bet.
Does OutSim agree... seems not based on some comments they made a long-while ago (didn't want OSMs to not be readable for everyone when bits and pieces of unsupported code float arround the community).
On the Multitouch thing... does Windows support it properly at the OS level? What about the VST standard?
Dj-Grobe ·
Hello guru odsson ! About multitouch, yes !!! Windows 7 is 100% native multitouch OS : ) Is very fun se how the older PAINT software, now have some multitoch features jijiji, Firefox browwser support some multitouch gestures too, i put some video soon here.
Right now im making some test with my touchsmart 300-1000 computer, only support 2 touchs at same time, but is enough, anyway the toucshcreen on that uit have some thing need be fixed i plain create today a video for show the problems i find on the touchsmart 300-1000 models.
The best multitouch device available on the amrket for widnows is HP TX2Z TABLET (the new models laucnhed few montsh ago)
About VST is 100% possible, all we need for multitouch, is new area mouse module multitouch capable. based on my knowledge the host aplication not handle the mouse events, mouse events are handled directly by VST aplication, so multitouch is 100% possible.
This list of hardware devices supporting multitouch under windows is really big right now : ) Hours ago google anounce the google tablet, of course google device just run OS from google (android), but is another clear example where the industry move this year.
2010 the year of tablet (and multitouch)
I think the same about SDK, really be nice, but aprently Outsim guys not plain create SDK.
Dj-Grobe ·
New FLASH 10.2 beta available with Native Multitouch Support !! 🙂
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