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moog sound (how to get a moog sound)?

Archive · 2009 13 old posts

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djbrynte ·

just wondering how to get a moog sound from a synth. Im planing to make a cool moog synth how i get that fat sound? any ideas? thnx for all help i can get.

aliasant ·

Not really easy but one approach could be to have say 4 oscillators slightly "detuned" using a low noise that modulates the phase, frequency and/or volume?

rl ·

it's all about the filters! Learn Electric Engineering, Digital Signal Processing. Then discover the inner workings of Bob Moogs 'ladder circuit'. Yes, that involves blood, sweat and tears! See ya back in a couple of years. 😉

djbrynte ·

ok thnx for the tips guys. btw do u know any nice moog filter i could use?

rl ·

open your eyes next time you open SM and don't do drugs, kids!

....'guess I'm talking in vain again.

aliasant ·

I dont think its that much about the filter itself but the whole setup. The filter is just one part of it. Old hardware synths had a lot of irregularities in them. Noise and such. But there must be a lot more then that to it. If you hear a moog synth you can tell it is a moog just by listening to it. It has a very fat sound that is hard to explain. For me at least.

djbrynte ·

ok i know its a moog filter in the sm but is that just a simple moog filter that make it sound like a moog? or do alisant have right here about detuning and stuff. Have no ideas guys. And sry i know it was a moog filter in there but i dident know it was that simple thats why.

trogluddite ·

aliasant wrote: Old hardware synths had a lot of irregularities in them

A lot of the stuff in those old synths that we love so much were completely accidental. The instabilities etc. were considered to be faults by the guys who designed them - they worked for years to try and get rid of that stuff. Strange how now that we can have perfection if we want it, we spend so much time tryng to put all those 'faults' back into our designs! Bob Moog's ladder filter only came about because the designs he wanted to use were all subject to patents - Moogs only sound the way the do because he didn't want to get sued by some a**hole lawyers.

Moral of the story - be inspired by what you hear others doing, but sremember to see what happens when you don't just try to copy - now that we're making synths in code there's no risk of electrocution or blowing up your laboratory if you just try something nuts to 'see what happens'. Look up 'Circuit Bending' on the net to see some cool examples of this kind of creativity.

The Luddite

MegaHurtz ·

Im with rl on this one, you simply can`t. You can yab on for years about interference and cirquits, and still it`s the inherent softnes for analog machines that have quantization approaching the speed of light. you yust cant..

aliasant ·

MegaHurtz wrote: Im with rl on this one, you simply can`t. You can yab on for years about interference and cirquits, and still it`s the inherent softnes for analog machines that have quantization approaching the speed of light. you yust cant..

But hey. You can try and maybe get a sound of your own that later will be called "That Swedish Brynte Sound" 🙂

Acrobat ·

"quantization approaching the speed of light" is a good name for an album! 😀

trogluddite ·

Acrobat wrote: "quantization approaching the speed of light" is a good name for an album!

Can't quite remember, was that Hawkwind, Genesis or Emerson, Lake and Palmer? LOL 😀

hansdump ·

It should be noted that there is a lot of stuff about that topic in the www and even tons of approaches in this forum. If you want to go to make it better... be fair and tell us about it 😈

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