Sm in WINE Linux

philter5 · 15 Nov 2009

Disco_Steve wrote: SM almost works in wine!!

and many linux apps support windows vst's 🙂

has anyone been able to tweak wine so that sm works truly, or knows any good resources, so that I can make sm work in wine?

yeah! that would be great! 😀 i have tried to run sm under wine(i think it was in june or July) but with no succes , then i gave up... 😕

micron · 12 Oct 2010

I see it's a dated thread, but since i have not found a newer one, i want to show you my experience. I'm testing it on Fedora 13 32bit(rt kernel) and wine 1.3. The main thing i have had to do is to replace the default gdiplus.dll with the one i have found on my original windows xp system32 folder(without replacing the gdiplus.dll the gui appears broken). I have done some tests and(at least on my system)the GUI is faster using windows 7 compatibility mode.

So with wineasio and jack i can work without any problems in realtime on a laptop equipped with dual core T7200 and edirol fa66 firewire card. Sal

Disco_Steve · 12 Oct 2010

GREAT!! I basically gave up on linux straight after my original post, because my sound card drivers are FULL of math error and thus sound like POOOOOOOO!! 🙁

I dont have the time to learn how to make my own driver, and aparently for my sound card its very hard! so I just stuck with windows! at the mo.

thanks for that info though, I can imagin that being very usefull in the future.

Steve

Dell · 12 Oct 2010

Hi.

What DAW are you using with Linux?

A few months ago I was searching for an audio editor that accepted vsts using a Linux platform.

Cheers!

micron · 14 Oct 2010

Dell wrote: Hi.

What DAW are you using with Linux?

A few months ago I was searching for an audio editor that accepted vsts using a Linux platform.

Cheers!

Hello, as DAW i use Reaper and Energy xt(windows version for vst support), but thanks to the routing and synchronization offered by jack audio connection kit it is worth to experiment with mixed windows/linux applications running together. For example Ardour is a great multi track DAW (you can compile it with vst support, but i have not tried yet) that has not midi sequencing support, but it can be synchronized with other native linux applications such as Rosegarden that is not so great as DAW, but it's good as midi sequencer/editor, so we can run both synchronized, and if we want some vst plugin, we can start energy xt or vsthost(which is free) and use it as real time hardware and do the proper audio/midi routing using qjack control. There is also a promising Audio/midi DAW called Qtractor which is in the early stage. For destructive audio editing Audacity is fine and there is a vst-bridge to be compiled for vst support(still have to try), but using the previous real time approach it can be routed to a rack of vst effects and then record the processed audio. Freecycle is a good tool for beat slicing(Recycle like). Some native windows audio editors should work fine such as wavosaur and wavelab and samplitude. Sal

Dell · 15 Oct 2010

Cheer micron!

I am actually searching for a DAW that is designed for Linux. I completely forgot about Audacity. I will give Audacity and, Ardour a try.

Cheers!

tor · 17 Oct 2010

Dell.. you should really check out Ardour. It is the most versatile DAW in linux. Try Ubuntu Studio and you get it out of the box. I have not used linux for a long time my self. It seemt that I always manage to get hardware that is nearly impossible to work right 🙁

http://ubuntustudio.org/home

here is a guide to vst in ubuntustudio (*I have not tried this. but it seems right):

http://www.nbl.fi/~nbl4321/?p=866

Dell · 20 Oct 2010

Cheers tor!

I tend to use Fedora from time to time. I will Unbuntu Studio a try.

Neptune · 25 Aug 2011

Hi to everyone,

Haven't been here for a while. Hope you are all well.

I have changed my PC-setup to Linux and i am using Ubuntu now.

Audio from SM is working without problems using Jack and WineASIO.

But i have massive problems with the GUI part. Nearly none of the controls-indicators (Knob-values, sliders....) are visible, no conecting wires.... Also after compiling to a VSTI the GUI issue still appears when the plugin has been loaded into the DAW.

I know it is a very special Linux or Wine related question. But has someone been able to tweak his system in a way that SM is working in a way it is usable? I dont want to run Windows in a VM.

Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers, Neptune

Neptune · 25 Aug 2011

Ok. My problem is fixed. SM 1 & 2 work in Wine I found a note on the official Wine homepage about gdiplus.

Still a small delay for me when dragging modules from the toolbox into the schematic. But this can be for sure also tweaked in Wine or Winetrick somewhere. Also reducing the size of the Toolbox (1 column) speeds up the system a lot!

No xruns in Jack when heavily playing the the example.osm

(My old schematic unfortunately gets xruns when triggering a new note on the keyboard. Once a note i played and held (e.g. sequencer or arp) there are no more xruns.)

If someone is interested:

Install Wine, Wine-Dev and WineTricks (running Wine 1.3.26 here) Install Synthmaker (Synthmaker works already with the Standard Sound Module, but Jack (i am using Jack1) and WineAsio should be installed for Latency-free usage).

Checkout if the SM-GUI-appears correctly on your system after installing SM.

If not -> To fix the GUI problem goto Applications -> Wine -> Winetricks Click "Select the default Wine-prefix" and click OK Click "Install Windows DLL" then OK Scroll Down to gdiplus and tick the selector for gdiplus. Then click OK. This will activate the GDI+ for Wine. Done.

Start SM and have fun.

Cheers, Neptune

Disco_Steve · 29 Aug 2011

mate you are a super star!

I have no current plans to move back to linux, but this post may come in extremely useful in the future 🙂 thank you again

Steve

tor · 1 Sept 2011

thanks!

it actually runs smoother under wine than under xp in virtualbox. exept the toolbox witch is kinda slow.

edit: i also had to install corefonts with winetrix to get all right

Neptune · 2 Sept 2011

tor wrote: thanks!

it actually runs smoother under wine than under xp in virtualbox. exept the toolbox witch is kinda slow.

edit: i also had to install corefonts with winetrix to get all right

Yes, to reduce the size of the toolbox brought a real performace boost for me. I also reduced the size of the navigator. The 2D abilities of wine are unfortunately not the best ones 😈

Btw. i just recognized that my newly saved osm is not on the disc. Have your tried saving a schematic already? As a workaround, for the moment, i add my module to the SM toolbox (others) before closing SM. From there i can get it next time i start SM.

tor · 2 Sept 2011

saves and opens just fine. also in real Windows after wine 🙂

Neptune · 5 Sept 2011

tor wrote: saves and opens just fine. also in real Windows after wine 🙂

Aah, just changed the wine windows version back to WinXP. Saving works fine again for me.

And after checking some forums about how to speedup the 2D redraw in wine i changed the DirectDraw Renderer in WineTricks to OpenGL. 🙂

hudson_m4000 · 16 Dec 2011

Great advice & help in this thread! Just got SM running in Ubuntu 11.10. A bit slow to react to the mouse, but really pleased to have it running at all!

Many thanks Mark

CoreStyler · 18 Dec 2011

Ago, i tried with the clone of FL studio.. don't remeber the name... With wine the plugin opened and sounded good. but, the UI was broken and no change (no interaction with) was possible. Maybe depending on setting... Was Ubuntu 9.x

MichaelBenjamin · 18 Apr 2012

works with wine 1.3 + native gdiplus + corefonts in windows 7 mode, and regedit currentuser/software/wine/Direct3d/DirectDrawRenderer=opengl

the only things like others have mentioned is that the toolbox is much slower and the gui is a bit slower overall, the example synth osm behaves like a medium~large project and it doesnt create any new osm on save, but you can save and overwrite the original file, or drag it in the toolbox. windows xp mode was much slower than win7