From the original SynthMaker forum (2004–2014), with its members’ names and dates.
phertel ·
Some times SM crashs out of the clear Sky. With or without errorreport. How SM like.
Some times when it crash they take my work in to the Nirvana. Most without a Backup, because thrill, I think. 😠
When SM not crash then the modules out of the modul bar works or not! How ever SM like! 😠
I think I go to be barmy! 😮 🙁 😠 😕 😝
Look at my Schematik.
The Chorus has worked until yesterday. To day I load it normal and with out any changes the Chorus dosn't work again. What ever I do. Nothing to do. 🙁
I'm thrilled! 😠 😠
... and nerved!!!
... and 😝
... and so on!
And once again when I set the AHDSR to 0 with out Susain an Ammount then there is a click Sound comming from zhe OSC's.
How can I change this. In my Schematik I eliminate it with a fine Attack and Realease tuning. Is there an other way to eleminate this?
Peter
PS.: There are no Virus and Malware on my System. Avira, Spybot SD and Hjak this says anything is clean.
My System is a Singel Core Pentium 4 2,53GHz, 2GB Ram, a SB Audigy2 with ASIO, XP SP3. The VST-Host is FL.
SM-Version 1.1.3 beta6
MichaelBenjamin ·
i dont see a schematic to look on, but as far as my experiences go, sm is quite stable, with the occasional odd crash when cycle analysers and different readout modules are on the same screen, but i always take the 5 seconds to save before adding them.
phertel ·
Sorry, now there is it! 😊
Please reload this Side!
THX
Nu Audio Science ·
Micheal you have either been seriously lucky or you aren't using a lot of modules
Oh wait do you remember to turn off the audio in SM after each time you test something ?
That can help with crashing too
I have to be honest i would not call SM quite stable and the bugs are bad too
But it is still being developed even if much slower than the FL version so it will all get fixed in time
NAS
sunsynth ·
Hi Peter,
my 1st hint is: use the Moduls out of Maik's 'Analog Modelling Kit'
U use very old unoptimized Versions
2nd: Search 4 Tips how to use the denormal-modul...
btw: your SM Version?
Walter
phertel ·
The First error i've found! *sweat*
The Chorus works again. I had a Hardware damage. A broken cabel.*** 😕
@Walter The SM-Version is 1.1.3 beta6. This thing with the new Analog-Kit - I think about it.
The crashs are beta errors, I think, but this is nerving althogh. Especial when my work goes to eternity.
@NAS: You mean when I work on my Project, first I turn the Audio off. Later, when I want to test it I switch the Audio on. After Testing -> Audio off. Is this true? (So far.)
@Michael: Stable is an other thing. But not SM! Because in this Moment and in the 1.1.3 beta6 Version. I fight with SM every day but sometimes, like today, it must out of me. 😈
greatings
Peter
oddson ·
I just wanted to comment on the perception of stability or instability. We tend to work on single projects for extended periods of time. Certain primitves are more prone to causing crashes than others (some, like the Format String are downright dangerous and you need to be very careful with them). Then some bugs are so situation-specific that it can be next to impossible to sort out where the problem is because you can't replicate the problem with a simple schematic.
So I can work with SynthMaker for weeks without crashes or have multiple crashes within hours at other times.
If the project your working on contains a dodgy primitive or a bug that relates to complex interactions it's small consolation to hear others don't find it buggy.
Andrew J ·
oddson wrote: So I can work with SynthMaker for weeks without crashes or have multiple crashes within hours at other times.
I'll echo this too.
sunsynth ·
Me 2...
and Peter you and we all often really forget that we work with a BETA... right?!
I work mostly in the Audio-Stream area and even the beta 6 is wonderful stable 4 me!
The only thing that kills me and my Standalones are Midi-CC ins in combination with a moving slider!
phertel ·
@Walter: You are true, but I know, it's a beta, Yes, that's my comfort and I hope when the final SM is out the buggs are away. And the Stabillity is better. And I can be happy with SM! 😀
@oddson: OK. That's true.
I work a long time on many Projects and I can work a Time with SM but this is the risk. When I forgotten that SM is beta then SM remind me with a Crash. Often without Recover File and sometimes with demolish the Schematic. Then I must go nuts! 😠 😝
When SM give a Chrashreport than I send it to Malc in hope he can work with it and he can see what's on. But sometimes SM dosn't made it.
Some times SM makes my a little bit angry.
OK,SM is a great Tool for making VST(i)s. SM is the best Tool I know.(Except NI-Reaktor but this is mutch expensive)
Thanks fore the hints. I heed so's advice for a better work.
Greatings 🙂
Peter
MichaelBenjamin ·
yes, but i meant it more like, if sm works horrible, you work horrible with sm.
but horrible is too drastic anyway.
there could be a collection of problematic modules and basic constructions that should be avoided.
i never used the string format for example, so i didnt know about this.
as a new sm user, one basically has to understand the different data types and how they interact, with all their advantages and shortcomings - the special green, the stream white, the stream blue, the underlying stream 4 channel and someday the 1 channel asm, and then learn to adapt to that structure while learning all the problematic constellations so it does not crash. at one point surely this may get frustrating, but calling this program working horrible is completely off.
oddson ·
Yeah but you can understand the frustration when whatever you are trying to do is crashing with alarming regularity.
BTW - the Format String primitive is an invaluable resource for tweaking numeric display in your GUI but it will crash if fed an invalid string definition.
See this thread for a safe way to tame it:
How do I adjust readout without crash
Tom7777 ·
Nu Audio Science wrote: Micheal you have either been seriously lucky or you aren't using a lot of modules
Oh wait do you remember to turn off the audio in SM after each time you test something ?
That can help with crashing too
I have to be honest i would not call SM quite stable and the bugs are bad too
But it is still being developed even if much slower than the FL version so it will all get fixed in time
NAS
I have the same opinion, i have sent in bugs for years and can always find ways to make the app crash. I notice if i work a lot in code it won't crash because it's usually more when connecting things together that crashes happen. SM is more stable though now probably due to the many bug reports me, you and other SM users have sent in over the years. I still use SM but not as much recently however i have still had crashes and i mainly just use the code modules now. SM is a great app though but there will always be bugs and crashes, recently though development seems slower and as there is loads of toolbox modules now i would prefer bug fixes over anything else.
Wrote something here? To have a post removed or your name hidden, write to [email protected].
SynthMaker