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AngularMomentum ·
I want to request a system where also recovery files are not deleted automatically, I just lost a project I worked for 8 hours straight because after loading the recovery files (loading the wrong ones) on close SM deletes all the recovery files, not good!!!, even the ones you saved there (by accident). Please make an option to leave them there...losing data is such a pain.
aliasant ·
AngularMomentum wrote: I want to request a system where also recovery files are not deleted automatically, I just lost a project I worked for 8 hours straight because after loading the recovery files (loading the wrong ones) on close SM deletes all the recovery files, not good!!!, even the ones you saved there (by accident). Please make an option to leave them there...losing data is such a pain.
I feel your pain. When I have a crash, the first thing I do is go to the Recovery folder and .rar the latest file so that if it gets deleted I can always just unrar that backup. Works great but I agree. Would be nice to have that either automated or as you suggest. Not deleted in the first place.
TomC ·
+1
And, while we're at this topic, remove this process ID check (for the people who didn't noticed that, after a crash SM checks its own (new) process ID, and when it's changed after a restart the recovery file (if available) gets loaded).
Problem is, when you re-start SM directly after a crash it often gets the same ID, and therefore doesn't automatically load the recovery file. At least that's how I interpret that behavior...
Tom
aliasant ·
TomC wrote: +1
And, while we're at this topic, remove this process ID check (for the people who didn't noticed that, after a crash SM checks its own (new) process ID, and when it's changed after a restart the recovery file (if available) gets loaded).
Problem is, when you re-start SM directly after a crash it often gets the same ID, and therefore doesn't automatically load the recovery file. At least that's how I interpret that behavior...
Tom
Its quite annoying I know. thats why I have found the way to backup the recovery file the safest. Since I started that I have had no real problems anymore. The whole thing maybe needs some redoing
AngularMomentum ·
I see Tom, and thank you both for the emotional support!
...I hope that soon the function will change as follows, at least have 1 copy of a project still available with no automatic deletion, set manually a date, for instance after a week the files older then the latest recovery file, (note: recovery files of a specific project) will be deleted, en plus, you will be notified on the deletion! This way your harddisk does not run out of space from having millions of recovery files...if yo have very dodgy or groundbraking schematics that is...heheh.
Tom7777 ·
AngularMomentum wrote: I want to request a system where also recovery files are not deleted automatically, I just lost a project I worked for 8 hours straight because after loading the recovery files (loading the wrong ones) on close SM deletes all the recovery files, not good!!!, even the ones you saved there (by accident). Please make an option to leave them there...losing data is such a pain.
Yeah this is annoying. I have lost hours of work with this also, if it's a infinite loop it just crashes again and i think on second load just deletes it so you have to copy the recovery file to desktop etc before even loading SM again or it's gone most of the time. I also find when it crashes it's sometimes a long way behind what you were last doing just before the crash so you loose lots of work anyway sometimes even if you get them back.
AngularMomentum ·
Ah, that explaines why it loaded the wrong recovery file. I probably have had the problem it was way behind. I redid already half of my work, and it is a lot neater now. That is the upside of losing stuff.
sunsynth ·
Hmmm,
i'm thinking of a crashguard/wathdog made by me...
I had such damn expieriences before 2 but not very often 😉
If U guys think such a wrapper could be usefull (i already have some good ideas 4 it) just let me know!
And if someone is faster then me... no prob 😉
P.S: in combination with a version backup tool etc...
Walter
trogluddite ·
Hi All, For me the most irritating is the automatic reloading of a buggy .osm that instantly re-crashes.
Tom7777 wrote: if it's a infinite loop it just crashes again
A simple way around this would be a menu item Disable Audio which would automatically be selected when SM does a crash recovery. That would give the chance to seek and destroy the cause of the crash before the SM audio engine starts doing any calculations. If it had a shortcut button that would be even better - to use as a PANIC button when your monitors start deafening you with full scale white noise! (very handy if you use lots of feedback in a schematic). The function could maybe even kick in automatically if the CPU hit crosses a preset threshhold, to catch the crash before it happens. Also it might help users of less powerful PCs. I had a few situations on my old dinosaur of a P4 when I couldn't export .exe or VST because it pushed the CPU over the top Would need a nice obvious indicator on screen though, I lost count of the times that I thought my old SynthEdit schematics were broken because I'd forgotten to press the play button!
The Luddite
McBarGig ·
This is probably a stupid question...But where is the recovery folder? After putting up with an OSM that is large and takes too long to load, only to load another, and now finally another...I want to delete the hell out of them!! I have 3 recoveries loading. These are recoveries from a over a week ago. Its one of those things that has been a minor annoyance and now is a full fledged PITA and they must be killed at all cost...🙂
EDIT: Nevermind..Its too damn late, I found it in SM itself...I'm an idiot!
Thanks anyways
sunsynth ·
Hi,
i've made a beta of my Crashguard a while ago...
Because nobody reacted on my post above i left it unfinished...
Here my work until now... (XP and 7 tested) 1. unpack all files into SM dir 2. Start 'SM crashguard' with admin rights or disable UAC 😉 It moves ur recovery OSM's to the SM dir and kills all 0Byte user modules on startup 3. It detects that SM isnt started (it must be not active while crashguard starts!)- so 4. it starts SM... u can now load the previous moved recovered OSM from SM dir if needed and it exists 5. If u don't do anything in SM for about 45 seconds: 6. a warning Popup shows up and u have 2 choose if u take a break or SM is hanging 7. If u choose OK all is normal and u continue to work in SM but 8. if u click cancel the crashguard tries to kill SM and 9. move all found Recover files again to SM dir 10. in addition it copies the last path and filename to the clipboard 4U
I left the debug window and sleeps in this beta...
P.S: If u have an external Soundcard and crashguard cannot kill SM... try to kill SM with the taskman followed by switching off ur SC and after a pause and with a little hope... 😉
Tell me what u think! Crashguard
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