Rouge vsti released!

Zephyr · 25 May 2009

What no feedback???

aliasant · 25 May 2009

Well. Not sure but it looks like we have seen it before sort of. I might be completely wrong but it looks like you just put some of the stock modules together and there nothing thrilling about that.

Sorry. Just my stupid opinion. Never mind me.

Zephyr · 25 May 2009

Well have you tried it? I assure it's a lot more than "stock" modules.

aliasant · 25 May 2009

Zephyr wrote: Well have you tried it? I assure it's a lot more than "stock" modules.

🙂 Now I have.

It still feels like a lot of stock modules even if maybe there isnt.

Neg: I took a VERy long time to load it. Very very long time. It has a strange mix of knobs and buttons. The selector buttons look like they are off when they are on. A bit confusing. I couldnt find any routings other then the fixed ones. Might not be a bad thing but the ones that were there were very limited. No sync from one osc to another. No sample& Hold in the lfos. Strange LFO tempo thing. If I activate sync to tempo. there is still a rate knob. So how do I know if it is in sync to the track, other then by ear?

Pos: It used very little cpu once loaded. Simple with everything visible up top. I like that in a synth.

made a preset for you. Changed the first one a bit. Kind of liked that sound.

Its a good start for a synth but there is so much more that could be and should be done. Keep at it.

Zephyr · 26 May 2009

Wow! I put so much work into that little synth. I spent hours trying to connect the wires from the display for the osc's and reconfiguring them for my needs. This is a painstaking task for someone who's still new to SM. However I thank you for the preset and for the constructive criticism, it will help me for future synths. 🙂

aliasant · 26 May 2009

Zephyr wrote: Wow! I put so much work into that little synth. I spent hours trying to connect the wires from the display for the osc's and reconfiguring them for my needs. This is a painstaking task for someone who's still new to SM. However I thank you for the preset and for the constructive criticism, it will help me for future synths. 🙂

Lol. I have spent a couple of years on a synth and Im far from ready to do anything with it......

Nu Audio Science · 26 May 2009

I have spent many many years building synths in SM that have gone no where Truth be told i find SM only useful for much smaller projects to be honest at the moment Once you get past the throw everything at it phase you can start to build some interesting simpler plugins that do what you want

To be honest at this moment in time i only use SM for FX That may change if they can sort out the load times and CPU usage but only time will tell

NAS

aliasant · 26 May 2009

Nu Audio Science wrote: I have spent many many years building synths in SM that have gone no where Truth be told i find SM only useful for much smaller projects to be honest at the moment Once you get past the throw everything at it phase you can start to build some interesting simpler plugins that do what you want

To be honest at this moment in time i only use SM for FX That may change if they can sort out the load times and CPU usage but only time will tell

NAS

Completely agree!

Zephyr · 26 May 2009

So Mr. Aliasant do you have any vst's made? It would be nice to see a true example of your expertise. Maybe you have a website or something where I could demo some of your work. I see that you've added quite a bit to this community with all your knowledge, and It's been much appreciated.

aliasant · 26 May 2009

Zephyr wrote: So Mr. Aliasant do you have any vst's made? It would be nice to see a true example of your expertise. Maybe you have a website or something where I could demo some of your work. I see that you've added quite a bit to this community with all your knowledge, and It's been much appreciated.

Ouch. I havnt done anything. And my website aint much. Havnt updated it in over a year. Trying to gather some strenth to build a new one but I could give you an image of some stuff.

This first is one that IM helping Stefan with. Im making the gui and trying to make it easy to work with. Setting up presets managers and stuff. Its called Smackbox and when finished it will be a killer drum machine. This is not the final graphics but it will look similar. Its in development right now.

This is a weird plugin that can do some magic to the mids and highs. It contains over 50 filters and is quite complex but the result is a nice change to phases and frequencies that kind of ..No. I dont know what it sounds like. I only know I like it a lot. Called Air.

This is a Phaser / Delay thing that I wanted to give out for free when its done. Its quite fun to use but for now it uses to much cpu and is a bit buggy. One day it might be finished.... Called Phlamingo.

I have a lot of other things cooking but I never seem to be able to finish them..... I work to slow 😉

Now. Lets get back to the topic.

Tom7777 · 26 May 2009

Nu Audio Science wrote: To be honest at this moment in time i only use SM for FX That may change if they can sort out the load times and CPU usage but only time will tell

I have had this view for a while, right now i mainly just make FX with SM also.

theun · 26 May 2009

@Zephyr I "tested" your synth last week more or less directly after you posted it here. My conclusion then: Ok, this synth is not bad, on the other hand it's not very good or unique or different. I heard some good presets, but you know a preset may be good, but should also be usable. And I heard nothing really special. I found a few small flaws, but nothing to worry about. It was your "marketing blurb" that made me hesitate to give you some feedback. I am allergic for marketing blurbs, I am afraid. I am a sort of anti marketing person. I mean it's the marketing blurb here that makes your synth more important than it really is. Hey, it is a quite reasonable synth, but the marketing blurb is a bit over the top.

I don't have the time now to go on with the more technical comments, maybe later.

However I went through the presets today again, and selected a few sounds. I have used those in a small groove, just for fun. It shows that Rouge can produce some basic sounds rather well. You'll hear: -energy bass (+flanger fx +reverb fx) -nong pradu lead (+amp fx) -organ lead (+leslie fx +reverb fx) -inner reflections (+phaser)

Further I used an Alesis SR-16 drum machine recorded through a HW compressor. And finally some eqing and limiting in the mix.

Cheers

Zephyr · 26 May 2009

Nice work Aliasant! I like the Smackbox with those kicker car speakers lol! What a cool addition to a synth. And thanx Theun for going over my synth.

Please understand this everyone: It's a free synth, so far I've only had free synths. I believe it's a good sounding synth compaired to alot of free synths out there. Some of them look really fancy but sound like crap, especially when they crackle and pop like Rice Krispies! Or they don'y have built in effects either. It is basic, but meant to be so. i wanted to build a really nice sounding basic synth.

Acrobat · 27 May 2009

theun wrote: It was your "marketing blurb" that made me hesitate to give you some feedback. I am allergic for marketing blurbs, I am afraid. I am a sort of anti marketing person.

AH AH I'm with you, The Hun! Infact it's so lousy, downy when reading ads, do they really believe they can convince you? 😀 A.

tektoog · 27 May 2009

Hey all, I think the best thing to do, when throwing up a new product in the scene, is to back it up with at least some audio demo of what the said product can do in the mix ( what Theun actually did 😉 ) A quick tune might just do it !!! Ideally, the very best thing is to have a video of the product in action, in a DAW, interacting with other products... Do you wanna know more ?..... Check my website..... Cheers TekTooG

Zephyr · 28 May 2009

I only saw a few words that would be considered "marketing" all the rest of my words are describing the various functions and features, not really marketing just detailed specs. But what am i marketing? A free synth! Lol. You guys are funny. If I was selling this synth I actually would have done a lot more than just a simple paragraph to market my product yes? I would have adds on every major music web site along with in depth reviews and audio samples, but this is free!!!

theun · 28 May 2009

Zephyr wrote: Rouge is an amazing vsti with a rich fat warmth. This is due to the combination of 3 wavetable oscillators each with 39 selectable waveforms. Each oscillator has it's own independent LFO which results in being able to produce some of the wildest sounds you can imagine. Rouge also comes with built in effects such as reverb, delay and chorus. The moment you begin playing it you'll realize the quality of this instrument. And all of this is available absolutely free!

Just detailed specs? Come on, this is sales talk!

The moment you begin playing it you'll realize the quality of this instrument? Is it a Steinway? Do you really honestly think that Rouge is that good?

theun · 28 May 2009

Zephyr wrote: If I was selling this synth I actually would have done a lot more .......

Actually, you are not even allowed to sell this synth, as you don't seem to have a standard edition license.

Further your synth should carry the "MADE WITH SYNTHMAKER" logo somewhere. That is part of the restrictions for users not having a full license.

Distribution of plugins is permitted but the plugins must be free and carry the Made With SynthMaker logo.

Zephyr · 29 May 2009

Yes you are right, so I guess I need to update my vst's with that logo. Thanks for pointing that out. I also do not plan on selling anything, just like to offer free synths.