Howto create a shepard (ac. barberpole)-eff for soundfiles?
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TSt ·
hello folks,
no, at this time I'm not use SM, but I've discovered some interesting vst's, vsti's 😉
my design-environment based on Max-msp-Jitter(cycling74.com) this appl and tools helps me for a long time in performances, sound-install. etc....
so, one of my next tasks, is to build a shepard (like an acoustic barberpole) eff specially for soundfiles,
of course I know, that normalwise this eff based on sine-tones(C Risset etc.) and similar sound-mat,
but for myself is important not only the pitch as the var-par, else the other par of a sound to suggest this kind of eff
in the last time was created the elasticx~ external for Max-msp, a pitchshifter over 4 octaves and more (useful more for experimental stuff) this external could be useful for this task
thanks for help and solutions via pm to myself...
regards
TSt
TomC ·
I don't want to sound harsh, but isn't it a bit inappropriate to post a Max-question in a SynthMaker
forum?
I mean, you wouldn't post a basic question in an assembler forum, would you?
Tom
infuzion ·
TomC wrote: I don't want to sound harsh, but isn't it a bit inappropriate to post a Max-question in a SynthMaker
forum?
That is putting it nicely.
KVR would be much better either way.
Tom7777 ·
Well im sure people have been doing it from the start and using info here in other apps, just like (cough) the reaktor filters and other apps ideas get ported to SM in this forum. Could have said they use SM at least though 🙂
TSt ·
after a little bit of time, the questioner is now here 😉
at first: excuse my bad english and grammar, I'm german... if it useful - I declare my question also in german for better understanding
why I opened this topic here? - I found very interesting facts about sound- and schematic-design here in this forum
it seems, that this variant of shepard-effect is new for somebody and at this time, I can find only the "normally" using of these effect (mda, oli larkin, Pluggo, Audiomulch, an A-100-module by Doepfer) the composer Claude Risset uses it, in some songs of the Yellow Magic Orchestra (Loom) exists the shepard-sound
oncemore: my idea (I hope, I'm not wrong in my brainstorming) is to use not only the pitch as a psychoacoustic suggestion, else other parameters like overtonestructure, sample-par, etc could be useful to handle these in this effect
years ago, the intention was, this to use in a composition (an excerpt based on a novel by Hugo v.Hoffmannsthal...)
of course I have consulted here in Germany some people about this problem, in the cycling74-Max-msp-list (I work with this software for over 10 years ago, the beginning was in 1994 an article in Keyboards about this program) I can't find any solution
the theory of the shepard-effect, which I've study, are sources from books and internet
if somebody here has useful solutions and answers for this special kind of effect, please tell me these here and via pm to myself
and else (for the future): other interesting schematics or similar: the quadrupole-modulator (Vierpol-Modulator), the using of the Chua-Generator in composition and music (some news about these exits in the internet)
regards
TSt
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