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1.1.2: the Buss-issues thread

Archive · 2008 7 old posts

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infuzion ·

Likely bugs for a long time, but I like others avoid busses, but now they seem unavoidable.

1) Buss won't update GUI on Channel Name change Go inside Routing Matrix/Matrix Pair. Change one of the Selectors. The Buss connected to it will not display the new change, until you force a "refresh" by highlighting it or clicking somewhere around. I am not sure if the Buss is really switched or not. Repeatable.

2) Copy/paste links don't When a Bus Extract is connected to a Stream Mult, & you copy then paste them together, the connection between the 2 disappears in the paste.

I'm sorry, but why is there so much issues with the Busses?!? 😠 TIA

malc ·

Hi infuzion,

1) is just a redraw issue. The bus is switching, it just isn't drawing to reflect this. Easy to sort.

2) I can't repeat. Do you have an example you can send? I simply added a bus extract, gave it an output, connected to a stream mult and copy and pasted. The link was retained.

Busses probably are not the most widely used of components so maybe that's why some of the more obscure issues are taking time to surface.

Sorry it's causing you problems 😊

infuzion ·

malc wrote: 2) I can't repeat. Do you have an example you can send? I simply added a bus extract, gave it an output, connected to a stream mult and copy and pasted. The link was retained.

The Selector has something to do with the Buss Extract not getting the buss info in time for the paste to keep the connection. Likely related to 1) above?

Busses probably are not the most widely used of components so maybe that's why some of the more obscure issues are taking time to surface.

The Busses aren't used much because they are so buggy, & 90% of the time there are workarounds. If you do a forum search with "Buss (bug|problem|don't use)" user:infuzion, I'm sure you will find many posts. In fact, I'm only posting these bugs since I am forced to use the buss system & I hope it works for what I need it to do, or else the I will not get paid for the project I'm in the middle in. Sorry, I do not want to sound mean, but that really is the business situation I'm in.

infuzion ·

infuzion wrote: 2) Copy/paste links don't When a Bus Extract is connected to a Stream Mult, & you copy then paste them together, the connection between the 2 disappears in the paste.

The connection between a Bus Extract & its output is also lost when those primitives are made into a new module [CTRL-m].

Acrobat ·

My impression is the bus system go nuts when updatating many informations at once. It seems there are some unpredictable lags that mess up the whole thing in those cases, but that's just a superficial view of a SM user... 🙁

infuzion ·

Acrobat wrote: My impression is the bus system go nuts when updatating many informations at once. It seems there are some unpredictable lags that mess up the whole thing in those cases...

Can you be more specific please? What "informations" (data types or a mix, at startup in SM or in a VST?

Acrobat ·

infuzion wrote: Acrobat wrote: My impression is the bus system go nuts when updatating many informations at once. It seems there are some unpredictable lags that mess up the whole thing in those cases...

Can you be more specific please? What "informations" (data types or a mix, at startup in SM or in a VST?

I never used busses for streams or mono except in the groovebox where, in fact, there where some problems that exo solved with a workround ... I am talking about data types - float integer, boole - in SM, no vst... I have coupled a float with a boole to update a display, when float changes, boole said true to make the display show the actual changes - and the two things occasionally didn't match in visualization, despite I've carefully controlled the link orders. Instead, using wireless the whole thing worked perfect, and when you move a knob the display changes correectlt to an edit mode. See Alieno fakeLCD. It works good, fast response. Instead using busses it never worked so I gave up.

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