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Hlis93 ·
I posted one of my instruments to my new website. I posted a link to it on KVR. I am now finding the instrument is on several sites that inform people of freeware. I am fine with that as many of them seem to direct people to my site. This one site however has a download icon and I have directly stated in the display of the instrument and on the website that this is not for redistribution or resale. Its on the opening display of the instrument it can’t be missed. I have been rejected access to this site despite the fact that I signed up to see what they are doing before I have a fit. I do suspect that they are doing exactly what I do not want and gone out of my way to prevent.
Question is there anything I can do about it? Is it even worth it? Should I just let go and consider it a good fate?
edit: Redistribution is not really something that worries as much as the some Unscrupulous person trying to sell it for a 100% profit. That would send me through the roof. But I suspect that I will find that soon as well. I don't want to go on a witch hunt but people with low moral values make me sick. This is one of the main reasons that I have avoided releasing anything that I do in SM and why I have been sitting on this this synth for so damn long.
Here is the site:
http://www.plugindex.de/
Acrobat ·
Yeah I noticed some sites do that also on my Alieno.
As long as they point to my file, that's ok.
But may be the case they have the source on their own server
and that will be prosecutable even for freeware.
Never investigated further.
My "web culprit" is another, not the one you'r pointing, as it's french not german.
So there's 2 at least.
Hlis93 ·
Thanks. I was thinking as long as they are not selling it. I suppose I couldn't really do much about that either. Its just that they are the lowest referrer to my site, meaning they have it there protected under the login. I have still not been granted access to the site don't suspect I will be.
They have a link to my site. I don't think that means much as they are lowest flow to the site. but I guess I have to just ignore it for now. 😠
infuzion ·
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sambean ·
You could try directly getting in contact with them and asking them to remove it, first trying through their website or through their 'whois' record:
http://whois.domaintools.com/plugindex.de
You should probably keep a draft letter that you can send to people if they seem to be distributing it without permission that you can quickly fire off, this will work some of the time with minimum effort.
Hlis93 ·
nope no good. I guess they get a fair amount of pissed off developers. Theres a bunch of SM plugs there. Perhaps I will try again in the morning to fustrated right now. Besides that one site everyone seems to be good to go. Oh well. I will have donkey for the next one.
theun ·
Hi Hlis,
I have a login at plugindex.de, however I do not visit this site very often (maybe twice a year).
I never had the impression sofar that this site is being run by "bad guys". The site seems quite well organized, and provides an overview of both freeware and payware vst's. There is also a small forum (in german though). There is a rather limited number of reviews and tests on-line. So this site seems to be more or less a (much smaller) sort of kvr directed towards the german market.
Sites like this are mostly set up by well-willing amateurs who like to share their knowledge (and "goodies"), just like people start a fansite for their favorite artist (mostly loaded with illegal copyrighted material). However, maybe I'm wrong, but I can't imagine this site is a real money maker. Though to be honest I have no idea who are behind it, so maybe I am just very naive.
Of course I logged in earlier today and had a look at the link to your vst. Unfortunately they have a zipped copy of your files hosted on their own domain. Which is a shame and very unprofessional behavior, I must say. This also explains why this site generates little traffic to your site.
I checked some other download links, some point to files kept to their own domain, some point directly to the developers download area, some point to the homepage of the developer, which is the only acceptable situation I think.
So I think the best you can do is send them an email and ask them either to remove your stuff completely or change the link they provide to a link to your homepage.
Finally, I do not see why they would not allow you a login. Probably they do not use an automated answering script, and you tried to contact them while Europe was still sleeping.
Acrobat ·
Hlis93 wrote: Thanks. I was thinking as long as they are not selling it. I suppose I couldn't really do much about that either. Its just that they are the lowest referrer to my site, meaning they have it there protected under the login. I have still not been granted access to the site don't suspect I will be.
They have a link to my site. I don't think that means much as they are lowest flow to the site. but I guess I have to just ignore it for now. 😠
the real difference is where the link actually points, if it is protected by a login or password to their site, that is still legal
Hlis93 ·
I was granted access. Indeed they do sleep.
They are redistributing my instrument without permission. I have sent a communication to them.
I will see what they do.
It is a very nice site and they even made an audio demo with it, but the point is I explicitly stated that I do not grant anyone permission to do this.
I tell my kids everyday you have to ask before you take and you have to respect other people belongings especially if they are will to share with you. Apperently we teach our children that but many people wouldn't actually do that its not profitable.
Acrobat ·
Hlis93 wrote: I tell my kids everyday you have to ask before you take and you have to respect other people belongings especially if they are will to share with you. Apperently we teach our children that but many people wouldn't actually do that its not profitable.
And you do it right.
I classify those kind of sites as "Ringtone-VST" websites.
infuzion ·
Hlis93 wrote: I tell my kids everyday you have to ask before you take and you have to respect other people belongings especially if they are will to share with you. Apparently we teach our children that but many people wouldn't actually do that its not profitable.
You are very wise.
But also understand we have a president that teaches us we can steal from future generations (go into debt) with our "enemies" (China etc) to get a tax-rebate check now, pay for a war, subsidy our oil buddies while they rip off consumers, etc. Plus let the U$D drop like a stone to make it easier to pay 20-year old debts...
Thievery is everywhere. Because it is common, it does not make it more correct, but peoples' consciouses are more numb.
Hlis93 ·
I know and its very sad. 'The buck stops here' mentality that I was raise with is not the common practice in todays world, and accountablity is a means of saying something that people will gloss over without attention or the belief that they can change it and take hold of thier futures.
American are so guilty of just sitting on their ass worrying about how big their TV and SUV is. etc. They forget about the people that are dying in a war that has nothing to do with freedom or protecting this country etc that is and always was a scham. We think only of the gas prices and not of the draining of human life for profit. Americans, and I am one of them, are mostly A-holes when it comes to our world views. Sorry I am sure that will offend many people.
But I beleive that poeple can change and that future is dependant on that, if we don't change the shame is on us, every citizen in this country, we are meant to be in charge not the goverment. I think people have missed that point for far to long now.
Hlis93 ·
all things aside, I was able to get in contact with them and they have indeed fixed the post. I have promptly thanked them for fixing this. I am one happy camper now.
bootsy ·
Did you already contact them (there is an imprint and so on)?
I would do that first.
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