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theorize ·
.... I sure as hell hope you have too!
I can't for the life of me figure this out, maybe someone here can help...
I've sometimes heard this "signal" produced by audio devices in various places, it's a rhythmic pulse sort of sound, it sounds kind of like Morse code. If it were Morse code, it would go like this:
. .. . .. . .. . ..
the only times that i can FOR SURE recall hearing it was on a mixset i dl'ed from nubreaks a couple years ago that i used to listen to often. I know I've heard it other places, but just can't remember them. Well, I never paid it any real attention, just thought it was some noise maybe from someone's gear, or maybe some kind of line noise from a CD player, some kind of electrical phenomena that if i were educated on electronics I would know about. That's until I just head it again a little while ago, on my Mom's computer. I stay here a couple nights a week when I have classes night-moring combo (saves 3 hrs drive time), so I'm on it fairly regularly... and it's never happened that i can remember. She doesn't use it for anything fancy, just for classes she takes and e-mail, the weird think is there wasn't anything going on that *should* be producing sound, just a few static web pages in firefox, U3 launcher, Desktop assistant, Essential PIM, Webroot SpySweeper, McAfee OAS, 1 Document Print Pending (which error'ed I'm guessing more than 6 hours ago), Dial-up Connection and DirectCD. It just chimed in like it pwned the damn place. Hopefully someone can enlighten me before I start forming conspiracy theories. When it was on dude's mix I think my theory was at that time that he got the song off some p2p or torrent or something like that, but now I think that is HIGHLY unlikely, since I don't think my mom even knows those things exist, except for the whatever the news tells you, and I'd put money on it.
GaryG ·
it's not mobile/cell phone interference is it?
when i'm about to receive a text in the car i'll get a brief pulsing (trance gated 🙂) tone through the stereo (if the phones near the dash).
stefan ·
You can get that even when not receiving text/calls, and the sound has been used in several tunes.
Dunno if that's what theorize is talking about though.
There's a song called "turn off the phone" or something, a "silly" dance tune, that exploits the sound heavily 🙂
theorize ·
thanks guys I'll definitely check into that cellphone sound and see if i can't look up that song, I just started using a cellphone again yesterday so that could likely be the culprit.
I'll bet that's it.... but that's more disturbing to me than a conspiracy, I mean we hold these things up to our heads that have a strong enough (magnetic?) field to interfere with audio equipment... I can almost FEEL my DNA being mutated 😕
stefan ·
theorize wrote: thanks guys I'll definitely check into that cellphone sound and see if i can't look up that song, I just started using a cellphone again yesterday so that could likely be the culprit.
I'll bet that's it.... but that's more disturbing to me than a conspiracy, I mean we hold these things up to our heads that have a strong enough (magnetic?) field to interfere with audio equipment... I can almost FEEL my DNA being mutated 😕
FWIW, on a lot of PC systems you get ugly noises when the graphic card is doing stuff too (like when you drag a window around).
Atleast the mobile is at a very low effect when not being used, unlike for instance DECT phones 🙂
theorize ·
on a side note.... does anyone else see a wikipedia-skynet possibililty forming here? I think i'm going to start flowcharting my first AI program soon. 😈
PS yeah i get the mouse crap on all the Gateways at the local university. it's really annoying w/ headphones.
electrogear ·
Yep, sounds like your classic mobile interference by the way you describe the rhythm. If your mobile is sat there it will send out a 'here I am' signal to the nearest mast every so often... at least I think that's how it works anyway...
sunsynth ·
Yo, it makes your Head warmer...
and if you have a bad connection your handy sends the
'i'm alive and here am i' very often so your accu is sooner empty 🙁
Acrobat ·
theorize wrote: .... I sure as hell hope you have too!
I have M-Audio monitors, they're supposed to be masked but only from CRT monitor systems, not a damn heavy signal like a mobile. I discovered its interferences many many years ago, you better put them at least 4-6 meters away or you will damage your speakers. Then I even decided not to sleep with my mobile near the bed from that time on... I don't want brain interferences at least in my PRECIOUS dreams!!!! 😉 😉
GaryG ·
Acrobat wrote: I don't want brain interferences at least in my PRECIOUS dreams!!!! 😉 😉
or worse, it may transmitting your dreams to some shadowy government department for monitoring purposes...
😮
as for interference, the worst one i have to deal with is the hard drive on my laptop; induces an annoying rumble at times on the audio out. Shared busses or something i guess...
Andrew J ·
If it's mobile interference causing that rhythm, it would be a GSM mobile phone setting up a channel. This process happens whenever you get or make a call or text or when a location update (LU) is done. LUs happen whilst moving between different parts of the network as well as on a regular basis just to make sure the system knows if the phone is still in range (typically this is set to ~1 hour in many networks around the world). The process also happens for the setup of GPRS messages - so if you use a GPRS data service you'll hear it quite a lot.
While the radio signalling is conducted using a type of phase shift modulation (GMSK) at UHF frequencies, the initial process for a random access to the network pulses the signalling at higher powers to make sure that the network has the best chance of hearing the phone. These pulses produce a sort of amplitude modulated (AM) interference at audio frequencies in electronic equipment. Once a call is in progress, the network power controls the phone so that it transmits at the lowest usable power and the signalling also isn't pulsed quite so badly - so the intereference fades away to more of a buzzing sound.
The best way to eliminate the interference is to turn your phone off. If you can't bear to do that - then just get it as far away from electronic equipment and any audio input cables connected to that equipment.
Now, if you're worried about your health - then I'd say don't be! The electro magnetic energy radiated from the phone is non-ionising and thus can't produce mutations such as nuclear radiation could. Like any other radiation of energy (incandescent lights, heaters, sound waves, etc.), the radio transmissions of a phone can cause a localised heating effect - however this is far lower than the heat caused from the electronics in the phone and is also far lower than you would feel after a few seconds in direct sunlight. I'd be far more worried about too much exposure to the sun, passive smoking, hydrocarbon pollutions and all the other innumerable toxins we expose ourselves to every day.
I suppose you can all now guess which area my day job is in 🙂
oddson ·
I say it's either aliens, the CIA or an army of miniature robots.
Acrobat ·
Andrew J wrote: Now, if you're worried about your health - then I'd say don't be! The electro magnetic energy radiated from the phone is non-ionising and thus can't produce mutations such as nuclear radiation could. Like any other radiation of energy (incandescent lights, heaters, sound waves, etc.), the radio transmissions of a phone can cause a localised heating effect - however this is far lower than the heat caused from the electronics in the phone and is also far lower than you would feel after a few seconds in direct sunlight. I'd be far more worried about too much exposure to the sun, passive smoking, hydrocarbon pollutions and all the other innumerable toxins we expose ourselves to every day.
I suppose you can all now guess which area my day job is in 🙂
ecology? medicine?
...damn interesting, and thank you for the explanation, andrew.
Also the explanation on AM pulses is interesting too. It's true that it's hearable just in the initial process of a call, infact it happens a considerable time BEFORE the call, not during it. ... 🙂
Acrobat ·
GaryG wrote:
Acrobat wrote: I don't want brain interferences at least in my PRECIOUS dreams!!!! 😉 😉
or worse, it may transmitting your dreams to some shadowy government department for monitoring purposes....
eh eh sure!
Andrew J ·
Acrobat wrote: ecology? medicine?
Well not quite - I'm a mobile networks engineer.
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