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[SOLVED] SM Making Graphics look bad???

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aliasant ·

Take a look at the picture.

The big knob to the left is the way it is supposed to be but the same knob looks very blurred one step up, in the actual gui. It stays that bad when exported to VST.

Same thing with all my knobs.

If you look at the Filter and Res Knob... The F one is good and the Res knob is blurred. Same position. Why??

This is happening sort of random.

Is there a fix? HELP!

Acrobat ·

I don't have any fix for what you are showing up, but I have some observations about the display of elements in SM. I noticed that resolution of display changes if the module is selected or not. That to me seem to affect only drawn objects (with line, rect..etc) and not imported graphics, but I suggest you to verify this phenomenon and the consequences that it could have on your project's display.

oddson ·

It could be some interaction of image scaling and object placement.

If the bitmap has been resized and you are not on exact grid placement, I think this could result in the application having to anti-alias the graphic to position it in some locations but not others.

I'm speculating a bit but it has to be something like this.

I would think you can avoid it by using exact bitmap sizes in animated knobs.

aliasant ·

I have seen that too. Sometimes. But this is not the case this time. If you look at the smaller knobs.

They use the same graphics. Are at the same position but still the res knob is blurred... and the F one isnt.

aliasant ·

I would think you can avoid it by using exact bitmap sizes in animated knobs.

if that is so there should be a huge post about that.

Not sure I understood it correct.

Did you mean that the frames in a .png strip should be like this 40x24 ( an example) and not 40.3 x 24.13 ??

Edit: And if this would be the problem... Why is the F knob ok while the Res knob is blurred?

Acrobat ·

aliasant wrote: 40.3 x 24.13 ??

?? How can pixel sizes have decimals anyway ??

aliasant ·

?? How can pixel sizes have decimals anyway ??

They cant. Thats the problem.

Lets say you made a .pngstrip were each frame is 32x32 pixels.

Thats just fine.

But if you want to resize it you get in trouble.

You can resize it to ex 50%. That would make every frame 16x16

But if you resize it lets say 40%... each frame would be 12.8 pixels.

Acrobat ·

aliasant wrote: But if you resize it lets say 40%... each frame would be 12.8 pixels.

Oh I see..never questioned about but ....it's logical there has to be some approximation overthere...

Acrobat ·

Since the grid is 8x8 I always used multiples of 8 in sizes of objects.. and it came natural to my mind counting by 8s also in my graphic software...why don't you try this way? A.

aliasant ·

Since the grid is 8x8 I always used multiples of 8 in sizes of objects.. and it came natural to my mind counting by 8s also in my graphic software...why don't you try this way? A.

Not if it isnt really necessary. And this still. STILL doesnt explain why the Freq Knob looks ok and the Res knob looks like shit.

right?

Edit:

btw. All knobs looks great inside the module.

Acrobat ·

right yes.. 😮

😕

aliasant ·

Forgot to say something important.

My strips should be ok. The big knobs frame size is 74x74 pixels and the smaller ones are 52x52 Then there s a mini knob that is 34x34 pixels. They are all 151 frames per knob. Quite hi resolution.

rl ·

Did you try the smooth module with setting "false"?

aliasant ·

Noop.

Tell me. What do the smooth module do?? Ive seen it around but never gotten to check it out.

Were should I put it, why and when ? =)

Update:

Tried placing a smooth in the top level and when I turned it off all the fonts/numbers became bright, bigger and a bit lower down in the frame. But the knobs stay the same.

Also tried to place one inside a knob in some different places but I couldnt see no change.

Going to play GRAW2 instead 😉 I hope some wiseguy reads this tomorrow and gives us a solution.

rl ·

no. put it as low as you can - e.g. between the MGui and the V-transmitter

aliasant ·

no. put it as low as you can - e.g. between the MGui and the V-transmitter

SheiSSe 😉

I dont get it.

I am using the standard Bitmap knob from the toolbox. Almost no modifications at all.

The MGUI is at the first level of that module. If I go deeper.. well. Im trying in many places but no change.

aliasant ·

FOUND A FIX!.

By re positioning the knobs one by one. Just give it a nudge with the arrow keys and then move it back. That works. Still have no answer to what is causing the problems and it might be something someone should have a look at.

Glad I found the solution thoug.

malc ·

Would you be able to send me an example schematic that shows this?

Thanks 🙂

aliasant ·

malc wrote: Would you be able to send me an example schematic that shows this?

Thanks 🙂

Sorry ;alc. Dont have that build right now but I guess it will happen again. When it does I will mail it to you.

Thats a promise =)

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