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aliasant ·
Its a fully working version called Eqelon EQ. Theres a movie, the demo version and picture at my site.
Its not perfect in any way but fun to play with.
One problem is the temposynced lfos that really act weird. If more then 1 lfo is running things get worse. Cpu handling seems ok but could probably be improved alot.
ANyways. Have fun with it.
btw. why cant i get images to work in here?? is it because HTML is OFF ? How can I turn it on?
infuzion ·
aliasant wrote: btw. why cant i get images to work in here?? is it because HTML is OFF ? How can I turn it on?
Images usually end with .gif .jpg .png etc 😉
aliasant ·
😊
thanx.
Im an idiot. 😉
stefan ·
That's an awesome GUI 🙂
aliasant ·
THANX =)
God morgon
Maybe i should just stop trying to make vst stuff and concentrate on the gui things? But i need to make some vst plugs to have something to skin.......
stefan ·
Morrn 🙂 Vädret!
You should do whatever you enjoy ffs 🙂
aliasant ·
hehehe
your right.
aliasant ·
I was thinking about the lfo problems I have with this one.
The lfo outputs a mono signal but I need it to modulate the F signal that is used to control the eqs parameters.
What I did was simply ( but not so effective) convert the mono signal to a f signal with a ticker100. Is this why the lfos cant keep up?
Cant you guys build an lfo that outputs f instead of stream? Should be in the toolbox.
stefan ·
Using a mono LFO in conjunction with a ticker100 to modulate a float value probably eats up a lot of CPU time and is generally not a good idea.
Couldn't you use the peaking EQ module that takes a stream input for the frequency instead and just modulate it with a normal stream? That'd probably be much more efficient.
AngularMomentum ·
That's absolutely beautiful! 😍
aliasant ·
Thanx AM!!
Means some when comin from you =)
Stefan....
I was thinking about that too....
This is how I cntrl the filters AND the EQ display. Knob ( 0 ...1 range converted to freq for the display) is sending out the values in f to first the diplay and then to its actual filter. The lfo goes into the knob and ads -0.5 ...+0.5 to the knobs f value.
This way the display and the actaul filter readings match nicelly.
So.. if I use a normal peak filter with stream in I still have to convert the signal for the display and the knobs would have to work in stream/mono instead of f, but the more I think about it.... It should work. Lets just hope I can make the filters sound about the same as these.
Right now im defragging my main drive so I cant test it right now. damnit. :/
stefan ·
You probably don't want to update the display as the LFO modulates the EQ, because that'll eat a lot of CPU 🙂
infuzion ·
aliasant wrote: Maybe i should just stop trying to make vst stuff and concentrate on the gui things? But i need to make some vst plugs to have something to skin.......
There are always some people like me who can use skinning help 😉 You do have a knack to make things functional & beautiful at the same time! But it would help if you knew a bit about making VSTs... then you know how to talk to programmers, how things work, etc.
aliasant ·
Buhuu.
Have you tried the beta yet?
Its very very nice to actually see what yo modulate. If you have all four bands active with its own modulation ......... Looks cool =)
But maybe I have to give that one up too =(
Would this kind of things be easyer with the upcoming SM 2.0? I have got big hopes for the event system thing. But maybe I havnt quite understood it yet?
What i miss in SM again and again is something like float but with a lot higher res. That is what i think the event system might be??? or am I totally wrong? ( I usually am 😉 )
stefan ·
You're right about the event system having a much higher time precision and resolution.
The issue with the CPU usage here is something entirely different. Doing that many biquad analysis's per second WILL use CPU, and doing lots of big redraws will too.
aliasant ·
Stef..
If I skip the redraws of the eq display I think I can make atleast the number-display under each knob move with the modulation. That doesnt have to be exact. Only as much as I can see whats going on.. Should be fairly simple..
Btw. Automation in Sonar didnt work so good. Before I gave this baby LFOs the plan was to modulate everything by using the hosts automation. The data was recorded ok but when I started listening again sonar crashed within a few seconds. it didnt work at all in cubase 3.x Is this something known or is it just me again ? 😉
Glad I was about right for once. That event system needs to get it's ass here now!!!
aliasant ·
There are always some people like me who can use skinning help You do have a knack to make things functional & beautiful at the same time! But it would help if you knew a bit about making VSTs... then you know how to talk to programmers, how things work, etc.
The technical language is a huge problem. Its very hard to explain and understand. But this was never a problem when I did the VC-64 together with Torben for Cakewalk.
I did the design and all graphical elements in PS and made a dummy in Reaktor that I skinned and tested ideas on.
Torben just said what formats he needed things to be in. Maybe that was a unique project since the software was all done and I had full freedom to make a skin for it?
Anyways. I really want to learn more tech talk 😉 and whatever else I need to know. Wouldnt it be nice if life was like the movie Matrix 1? Neo sits in a chair plugged in to some teaching system.... and voila. Hes an expert att C++.... or karate or something.
stefan ·
aliasant wrote: Stef..
If I skip the redraws of the eq display I think I can make atleast the number-display under each knob move with the modulation. That doesnt have to be exact. Only as much as I can see whats going on.. Should be fairly simple..
Btw. Automation in Sonar didnt work so good. Before I gave this baby LFOs the plan was to modulate everything by using the hosts automation. The data was recorded ok but when I started listening again sonar crashed within a few seconds. it didnt work at all in cubase 3.x Is this something known or is it just me again ? 😉
Glad I was about right for once. That event system needs to get it's ass here now!!!
Updating just the knob movement should work fine, not hundred times per second maybe, but 25 should suffice 🙂
The automation is new to me at least. Made sure all parameters have unique names etc?
aliasant ·
At first the 2 horizontal faders had the same name. Thats when it crashed Sonar. I renamed them but never retried in Sonar. Instead I tried in Cubase but that didnt work at all. Not sure if it works now.. If anyone here is testing it. Please report if it works or not. Gonna try it in Logic later today.
Im still defragging my main disk but I think its done in an hour or so. Then I can get back to work.
infuzion ·
stefan wrote: You probably don't want to update the display as the LFO modulates the EQ, because that'll eat a lot of CPU 🙂
I would display the set static range, & a range (in another color or lighter) that shows the range of the LFO.
aliasant ·
I would display the set static range, & a range (in another color or lighter) that shows the range of the LFO.
Hmm. That would be nice but it seems hard to do?
I have to start creating new peaking filters. Thats my first step. The only Peak I found usable seems to be the RBJ ones. Or is there any other that I missed?
After I have a working filter I might add a LP and a HP. And maybe the 4 bands could have a choice between shelf and peak? Not sure how to fit them thoug. I might have to make the whole plug a little bigger.
After the filters are done I can start trying to make the lfo work with them.... But first the filters. The ones I use now i modified with a TanH sat thing in a feedback loop from the filters "out" back to the "input" with 3 samples delay. Maybe I should invert it aswell? hmm.
Anyways. if anyone has any good ideas I would love em. I think this plug could be very nice if it becomes tight enough.
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