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cbit ·
its great to see things looking do busy round here!
the latest version is looking great.. the demo synth is looking more and more impressive.. love the reaktor style step sequencer bar thingies.. (do sm a favour and get rid of the zipper noise already 😉 )
So im thinking of building a granular effect and i was wondering if sm has enough modules yet for me to do this (wthout delving into lower level stuff that makes my brain hurt 🙂 ).. the basic idea is as follows:
Its a vst effect that works on incoming audio.
it samples a user defined length of audio into a buffer and repeatedly plays back that 'grain' until the next piece gets sampled. The device will have envelopes that control the frequency of grain repetition, the speed/direction of grain playback and grain length (like granulab).
Sampling happens when the incoming audio exceeds a threshold.
The threshold is a product of a user defined 'minimum threshold' plus a dynamic 'threshold boost' factor. The threshold is boosted by the factor each time a new signal exceeds the threshold, and gradually returns to the minumum level at a user defined rate (this way, the signals will trigger the device during quiet passages as well as during loud ones).
do you think its feasable to try to build something like this in SM at the moment?
malc ·
Hi cbit,
Damn good to see you back here again 🙂 .
Sounds like a very interesting effect. I think the only thing missing is the buffer. Everything else I think is possible - maybe Jorge can confirm.
We do want to get support for buffers in as soon as we can as it opens huge possibilities. These would be implemented as arrays in the code component.
All the best,
Malc.
cbit ·
great stuff!, very much looking forward to audio buffers.
ohyeah: the other module/group of modules that would compliment buffers perfectly is a 'extract host position/timing' type thing, to enable synchronisation of effects with the host.. anything like that available yet or in the pipeline?
one more thing: claes at vember audio (the excellent 'short circuit' sampler developer) has created a special thread on his forum just to announce version updates.. the idea is that people subscribe to that thread to receive email updates whenever a new update is realeased.. quite an elegant solution i think.. maybe worth considering for SM? http://forum.vemberaudio.com/viewtopic.php?t=43
stefan ·
cbit wrote: great stuff!, very much looking forward to audio buffers.
ohyeah: the other module/group of modules that would compliment buffers perfectly is a 'extract host position/timing' type thing, to enable synchronisation of effects with the host.. anything like that available yet or in the pipeline?
You can use the TimeInfo component, you get tempo + position information from it.
cbit ·
thanks stefan i will look into it 🙂
lalo ·
cbit wrote: great stuff!, very much looking forward to audio buffers.
welcome back m8 🙂
as often happens we are on the same brain-wave lenght 🙂
i'm really excited 'bout audio-buffers to do all my mad live-set trickery 🙂
(vst automation needed too 🙂 )
jorge and malc are doin' an impressive amount of wonderful work!
the phantastic 2 🙂
lalo
stefan ·
lalo wrote:
cbit wrote: great stuff!, very much looking forward to audio buffers.
welcome back m8 🙂
as often happens we are on the same brain-wave lenght 🙂
i'm really excited 'bout audio-buffers to do all my mad live-set trickery 🙂
(vst automation needed too 🙂 )
jorge and malc are doin' an impressive amount of wonderful work!
the phantastic 2 🙂
lalo
vst automation is already there, thru the preset values.
lalo ·
stefancrs wrote:
vst automation is already there, thru the preset values.
good to know is a lot of time i didn't try to export to vst..i gonna try now with the example file...
i didn't see the announce for this very big improvement so i though jorge and malc was doin' other important things
thanx tho!
lalo
lalo ·
stefancrs wrote:
vst automation is already there, thru the preset values.
..mmh..doesn't work here with eXT 1.3 (latest one)..plus the cpu goes at maximum even if FM3x is not playing any note..i'm just sending to it an envelope curve to try to automate parameters..
did you get success automating an SM VST thing?
thanx
lalo
stefan ·
lalo wrote:
stefancrs wrote:
vst automation is already there, thru the preset values.
..mmh..doesn't work here with eXT 1.3 (latest one)..plus the cpu goes at maximum even if FM3x is not playing any note..i'm just sending to it an envelope curve to try to automate parameters..
did you get success automating an SM VST thing?
thanx
lalo
Yes, I haven't done it in a while though.
Does it go to 100% cpu regardless of which param you automate? Tried it in any other hosts?
Ofcourse it should work in eXT as well, but hosts seem to do automation differently, so it could be good to know for jorge and malc that for instance automation in eXT makes SM vsti's eat 100% cpu, but it works in fruity loops. Or so 🙂
lalo ·
i'll do more tests...i can't see parameter names too....maybe FM3x doesn't provide them...i'll check
lalo
Tom7777 ·
Maybe Jorge and Malc should make some sort of automation editing modules in which you can set the parameter names of sliders and controls you want to be automated ect.
stefan ·
Tom7777 wrote: Maybe Jorge and Malc should make some sort of automation editing modules in which you can set the parameter names of sliders and controls you want to be automated ect.
Uhm, but that's what you do with the preset params?
cbit ·
lol 🙂
lalo ·
ok...neither in Bidule i'm able to automate...
the automatable parameters simply aren't visible in Bidule...there's no parameter to modulate...
i think that jorge and malc did the preset (fxp/fxb) thing but not the proper parameter automation yet.
i wonder why it works in Fruity?
maybe you have a more recent version stefan? 😉
lalo
lalo ·
cbit wrote: lol 🙂
???
🙂
cbit ·
sorry: im feeling ferociously jovial this evening. i will try to contain my lols while i test the example synth with automation on my system 🙂
lalo ·
cbit wrote: sorry: im feeling ferociously jovial this evening.
cause SM rooooooxxxxxxxxxxxxzzzzz!!!
and all the guys here ruuuuuuleeezzzzzz!!
LOOLLLLLLL
lalo 😀
cbit ·
fm3x params not showing up in tracktion here either (which won't come as a surprise 🙂 )
Tom7777 ·
lol
Don't lol me punk 🙂 joke
i didn't actually notice there was a preset params module until today when stefancrs said that and it looks like lalo did not know it was there either so whatever and with 16 pages of modules in my search i do sometimes not notice stuff, i have only every used the preset manager module before. And by the way peaople were talking about automation it looked as if it was not there yet 🙂
lalo ·
hehe ..
let's give some more time to jorge+malc
in a couple of months i guess we'll find out ourself planning
extra-solar system space missions with SM 😀
lalo
Tom7777 ·
cause SM rooooooxxxxxxxxxxxxzzzzz!!!
and all the guys here ruuuuuuleeezzzzzz!!
Yep, the SM community is a great one 🙂
lalo ·
Tom7777 wrote:
lol
Don't lol me punk 🙂 joke
i didn't actually notice there was a preset params module until today when stefancrs said that and it looks like lalo did not know it was there either so whatever and with 16 pages of modules in my search i do sometimes not notice stuff, i have only every used the preset manager module before. And by the way peaople were talking about automation it looked as if it was not there yet 🙂
afaik that module (wich works ok in my tests) is for fxp save/loading in vst hosts....but the actual parameter automation is not yet here...AFAIK
lalo
Tom7777 ·
in a couple of months i guess we'll find out ourself planning
extra-solar system space missions with SM
hehe 🙂
cbit ·
tom7777: i personally know so little about sm its embarassing 🙂 but im keenly watching its progress..
Tom7777 ·
tom7777: i personally know so little about sm its embarassing Smile but im keenly watching its progress..
Im still learning some things too 🙂 I was just trying to help by saying about automation becuase if nobody requests anything then it may never get added, no hard feelings about your lol comment to me, its all good 🙂 I want to make as many friends in the SM community as i can 🙂
stefan ·
lalo wrote:
Tom7777 wrote:
lol
Don't lol me punk 🙂 joke
i didn't actually notice there was a preset params module until today when stefancrs said that and it looks like lalo did not know it was there either so whatever and with 16 pages of modules in my search i do sometimes not notice stuff, i have only every used the preset manager module before. And by the way peaople were talking about automation it looked as if it was not there yet 🙂
afaik that module (wich works ok in my tests) is for fxp save/loading in vst hosts....but the actual parameter automation is not yet here...AFAIK
lalo
I cannot test it at the moment, because I'm running one of those famous "internal versions" of SM atm, so I ain't got vst export synced up etc, but parameter automation used to work for me atleast! I remember doing filter sweeps in Nildon... 🙂
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