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Zokimaster ·
I wonder is there any difference between the sounds of different oscillators, which have same basic waves (sine, triangle, sawtooth, square)?
I mean - if you compare these basic waves on oscillatores from different VSTs and also on hardware synths?
Is there anything possible to do to get "better" sound right on the start, before it gets into filtering, or everything/mostly depends on filtering and later effects?
I have some "great" ideas for my synths - but I wonder if I could ever build something close to sound of best VSTs (or hardware) which use same basic waves, if I start with these waves too. I know - I can use other waves and waveshaper, etc.. But there are many synths which get great sounds even from these basic waves - so I wonder, if their sounds are so good because of amazing filtering and other effects, or is there also some other secrets inside their oscillators, just on the start?
Zoki
dasdeck ·
there are many differences in the "quality" of wave forms. one saw wave is most likely not like theothers. there are a lot of things that matter. interpolation technics, antialiasing techinics, oversampling, way of creating the wave form and so on. i mean you could just draw an rectangle, or you calculate the behaviour of electricity in certain electrical elemnts etc.
there are plenty of possibiltity to produce "basic" wave forms.
i hope this helps 😉
D3CK
P.S.: of course there are plenty of possibilitys to modify the basic wave forms that come with synthmaker beyond filtering too, but i'm not good at such things. i'm afraid otheres have to tell the deatails. just look at interpolation, bandlimiting and stuff to get an idea.
Zokimaster ·
Dasdeck,
Thank you for reply. It does reveal some more info about this.
I believe that SM oscillators sounds nice. One great proof for this are the synths from Angular Momentum, which really sound analog, fat and warm. So I guess they use regular SM oscillators, except if there is maybe more programming behind.
It would be interesting if Malc would give some words about this too. It would be great to know if it's possible to built basic oscillators with DSP coding (I don't know anything about that, for now...).
And - if it would be possible to add more types of basic oscillators, that alone could be one of best features in future SM upgrades.
I just get such crazy ideas everytime, when I hear about new hardware synth, which sounds amazing - and I got a wish to have software tools to build such one (or at least something similar...). But without bery good oscillators you can't get "that" sound (IMHO).
Malc - if you come around, it would be good to hear your comment, what do you think about idea - to have more types of oscillators in future SM upgrades. Althought these which we have now are pretty good already.
Zoki
stefan ·
You could have a look at the oscillators in Anna, basically they are based upon generating user-controlled waveforms.
You can find Anna under About->Examples here on synthmaker.com
Zokimaster ·
Stefan,
Yes, thanks. I remember I downloaded Anna already 1-2 days ago, but didn't have time to install that time and try. But I remember - it has very wild look and promises great sound.
Btw. - is "Anna" just a name of VST, or the name of designer behind? 😀
Zoki
stefan ·
Zokimaster wrote: Stefan,
Yes, thanks. I remember I downloaded Anna already 1-2 days ago, but didn't have time to install that time and try. But I remember - it has very wild look and promises great sound.
Btw. - is "Anna" just a name of VST, or the name of designer behind? 😀
Zoki
Name of VST and the one I'm sharing my life with 🙂 She did however not design the synth 🙂
Zokimaster ·
Ah, I see. I'm still new and learning here... 😀
So, as usually in the life - women become popular and get all the glory, and we men are who have to do all the rest in the shadow... 😀
So this is your work - very great. I hope to try it soon.
Zoki
oddson ·
stefan wrote: You could have a look at the oscillators in Anna, basically they are based upon generating user-controlled waveforms.
You can find Anna under About->Examples here on synthmaker.com
You tease you... I got all exited becuase I've been waiting to have a look at those OSCs -- but all that's there is the VST! 😠
stefan ·
oddson wrote:
stefan wrote: You could have a look at the oscillators in Anna, basically they are based upon generating user-controlled waveforms.
You can find Anna under About->Examples here on synthmaker.com
You tease you... I got all exited becuase I've been waiting to have a look at those OSCs -- but all that's there is the VST! 😠
OSM will come, just a bit too much going on to get it to a releasable state right now 🙂
Tom7777 ·
OSM will come, just a bit too much going on to get it to a releasable state right now 🙂
Cool, formant filter 😀
oddson ·
stefan wrote: ...OSM will come, just a bit too much going on to get it to a releasable state right now 🙂
You don't have to clean up your room before you have company over. 😉
How about just the OSCs then? I'm really curious as to how they work.
stefan ·
oddson wrote:
stefan wrote: ...OSM will come, just a bit too much going on to get it to a releasable state right now 🙂
You don't have to clean up your room before you have company over. 😉
How about just the OSCs then? I'm really curious as to how they work.
My current version isn't stable enough, but I'll sort something out for you asap.
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