Little phase distortion synth..a la casio CZ

infuzion · 6 Sept 2006

Ahh, I love my CZ101! I was looking into making a SM version of their envelopes, but don't have the time...

I haven't done an a/b comparison yet, but it does sound neat either way. I do notice the PD dial seems logrhythimic (sp?); only the max values sound different than the rest of the dial. I think the value range in my CZ sounded more linear. Also, my CZ could turn off the ring modulion... in fact, with a MIDI sound editor in my Amiga, I could get several types of ring mods it seemed!

AngularMomentum · 6 Sept 2006

Nice one Lalo, will check that out today! But what's all that 2d stuff? 😕 😉

I used to own a CASIO CZ-1, nice synth in that time. One of my favorate CASIO synths must be the CASIO VL-1. 🙂

doug4350 · 6 Sept 2006

Ahh, I love my CZ101! I was looking into making a SM version of their envelopes, but don't have the time...

Yikes! I thought I was the only one on the planet that owned one of those. Actually, programmatically, there was a lot of bang for the buck in that little guy 🙂 I ended up reviving mine after ~ 15 years of dust collecting to find out the battery leaked into it. I managed to get it going, but I think it's off to the old folks home 🙁 .

No time... same here. I wonder if I put my computer, synths, effects, mixer, etc. under my pillow I'd wake up the next day "osmosisacally" knowing everything about them so I wouldn't be buried in learning/figuring out "stuff" *All* the time 🙂

Aloha, Doug

lalo · 6 Sept 2006

infuzion wrote: I haven't done an a/b comparison yet, but it does sound neat either way.

hi inf, do you have a scanned manual or a parameter list..so i can figure out the CZ architecture?...at this time the PD is the only thing taken from CZ... my aim is not to emulate it...but to be inspired by it 🙂

infuzion wrote: I do notice the PD dial seems logrhythimic (sp?); only the max values sound different than the rest of the dial. I think the value range in my CZ sounded more linear. Also, my CZ could turn off the ring modulion... in fact, with a MIDI sound editor in my Amiga, I could get several types of ring mods it seemed!

the dial is linear at the very end of the dial the phase distortion its quite..."dramatic" so you can here a very crisp sound....the fun begins if you assign pd dial and offset dil (wich is an offset for the sine wave phase) to a kind of XY midi controller ..wich i have one on my novation SL-61 mid i controller...or look at liveslice.dk for an app that turns the laptop touch box in an xy midi controller....

ring modulation?..do the cz use to have it?....i just play one of them when i was a little boy.... ohh..good times 🙂

lalo · 6 Sept 2006

AngularMomentum wrote: Nice one Lalo, will check that out today! But what's all that 2d stuff? 😕 😉

😉 my preffered videogame is....pong 🙂 ..i'm a mono-neuronic guy 😈

jobro · 6 Sept 2006

Pretty cool stuff! 🙂

angstrom · 6 Sept 2006

casio CZ101 user manual.

http://www.casionz.co.nz/Site/Pronto/Fi ... MANUAL.PDF

I still have mine somewhere - I think, although it is a very poorly condition.

rlahalla · 6 Sept 2006

Lalo! very nice! (I like the 2d stuff too 🙂 ) I'll post some feedback in a bit when I test it out . . . .

lalo · 6 Sept 2006

angstrom wrote: casio CZ101 user manual.

http://www.casionz.co.nz/Site/Pronto/Fi ... MANUAL.PDF

I still have mine somewhere - I think, although it is a very poorly condition.

thanx ang..i'll take a look 🙂

lalo · 6 Sept 2006

what's better?

infuzion · 6 Sept 2006

lalo wrote: what's better?

How about user-editable? 😉 But if I had to pick, it would be black; keeps my laptop screen from being burned out.

lalo · 6 Sept 2006

infuzion wrote: lalo wrote: what's better?

How about user-editable? 😉

why not....

infuzion · 7 Sept 2006

lalo wrote: infuzion wrote: lalo wrote: what's better?

How about user-editable? 😉

why not....

Well, it will add to the overhead (esp memory usage, & when you've got 30+ VST(i) loaded, & 2 hosts running, one would like things to be slim).

lalo · 7 Sept 2006

new little version featuring centralized display

get it here

http://www.t3rbo.com/file.php?file=08b2 ... 70923fdfb0

rlahalla · 8 Sept 2006

Lalo, I hope you don't mind, but I was just playing with your little synth and came up with my own version 🙂 The filters are from RL's moog filter port, and I'm not sure what I did with the waveforms in there, but it sounds kinda funky! Hope it's all good - here's a screenshot:

Here's the DLL and the OSM rar'ed together: OSM+DLL And Here's a small sample song I made with 2 Cheez's and some drums: MP3

Have fun,

lalo · 8 Sept 2006

great rlahalla 🙂

you can do what you want with it..it's an honour 🙂 ..nice little jingle 🙂

but a by lalo and rhallah instead of by lalo 🙂

rlahalla · 9 Sept 2006

Ok, so I fixed a few things and tossed a graphic on there (see image above). Added a bunch of other waveforms and adjusted the filter cutoff, and env. release. Only got a question- can't get the pitchbend to work for some reason. I have a alesis micron hooked up, and it works well within SM, but when I export it as a DLL in ableton 5, the pitchbend doesn't work....did I overlook something? Just wondering... well, here's another OSM+DLL Thanks,

Ps..Lalo, I changed the credits a bit, let me know 🙂

lalo · 9 Sept 2006

good 🙂

but i have to say i'm totally against the lgo and the name of the instrument on the GUI...well on any instrument/effect..... on my version i will put the name and the logo and the full credits on a switchable panel..... ...i have no idea why pitch bend doesn't work when exported in vst..i'll investigate...

lalo

rlahalla · 9 Sept 2006

Y'know Lalo, you're def. right...the whole logo thing just isn't right..I had started doing a switchable panel but stopped! I'm not sure I really like the name of it in general either. I think that might just go 🙂 hehe, fun with SM..

Still can't fighure out the pitchbend thing, or the fact that the first not when played in a sequencer [ableton 5] doesn't trigger. I'll update and investigate as well 🙂

Solstice · 9 Apr 2009

lalo wrote: hi guys,

just a very in inital version... i'll add more pd options and some modulation slots..and some randomness 😉

here it is

[old link]

The link is dead. Can you reupload it, please ?

Thank you very much ! 🙂

jps39 · 11 Apr 2009

I used to have a CZ-101 until a few weeks ago, stopped working. Anyway, I would really like to download and use but no link or upload. Please up load again.

jps39 · 28 Apr 2009

Hi does anyone have this OSM? if so please up load.

Tom7777 · 29 Apr 2009

Well i have not seen the original poster here for a while and OSMs need to have permission from the original creator really to be shared by other users. Since the threads originally from 2006 it might not happen, you should use the search feature or ask about something in the help section really rather than bumping old forum threads. Also note that SM is often changing so these older examples tend to have modules that have changed like before the wireless system happened and removed/replaced modules etc so they might not work well or have bugs even if they are posted.