D'oh! i just saved over the example project!

jorge · 1 Apr 2005

thanks citizenchunk and welcome to the forum

Like you suggest, you could always just run the install again, but I took the opportunity to make a small adjustement to it, I put some smooth modules in the LFO so it doesnt change so abruptly. here is the smooth module:

and here where it is used:

and now the example schematic: [old link]

citizenchunk · 1 Apr 2005

thanks Jorge!

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posh · 6 Apr 2005

beleive it or not, but just from looking at that example synth can you (rather, I, heh) learn how this thing works.. coming from SE and all, its a big difference.

My question is, you can add stuff to your toolbox, so i added a few of those modules to break it down in smaller parts.. but lets say that i make something which is built using parts of the example, and i wanna release it for people to use etc, can i do that then? its not a copy of the example, its just based around it (e.g), is that allowed? non commercial ofcourse.

also, is there an advanced tutorial on SM, cause i only find basic notes about the GUI/Modules etc.. Looking at examples is one thing, but without any comments on things others might find obvious (such as alot of floats/string/integers in GUI parts, non explained and just.. beeing there)., it might take some time. (thats why im currently using modified stuff based on the example).

as you can see/read, im not pretty used to these programs, and not an advanced SE user even. but so far i can see that what SE lacks, SM has. and im a fast learner. so hit me with those docs, eh? 🙂

(saw some posts about them docs here, but those files are down.. some database error i beleive.) - posh.

Tom7777 · 7 Apr 2005

Firstly i would like to say welcome to the forum 🙂

coming from SE and all, its a big difference.

Yeah i also started from SE but basically SM is not SE so don't expect all the modules to be named the same ect. I would say forget everything you know about SE and just start to look through all the documents on the SM website and get used to its feature and how it runs to begin with as thats what i did and now im using SM everyday and think it's a lot better than SE was. After you get a good understanding of how things work then take another look at the example file and see how it makes its sound step by step. The modules in SM are much more advanced than those in SE in that they allow you to go further into the structure where as in SE you just right click and choose a few options and enter a fer values. Oh and don't get me wrong i still think SE is a good app and use it every now and then, i just think SM is much better 🙂

its not a copy of the example, its just based around it (e.g), is that allowed? non commercial of course.

Im guessing you mean just move a module here and there then edit the skin and claim you made it sorta thing. I guess thats ok but i would say thats not a good method of doings things really, think how many free synths and effect there are online now (Millions) and they all sound the same because alot of people that use modular apps have chosen to do things this way which is not a good way in my opinion. I do think however that might be a good start to help you learn how to make a synth in SM 🙂

also, is there an advanced tutorial on SM, cause i only find basic notes about the GUI/Modules etc..

At the moment SM is in beta still and the examples and documents are slowly building so im sure that there will be some advanced tutorials available to download and try later on.

it might take some time. (thats why im currently using modified stuff based on the example).

Modular synthesis does take time if you want good results so if you don't know much about how oscs, filters and effects work it might also help to type "Modular synthesis" into a search engine to see how things run and then try and make some modules from the information you find.

i can see that what SE lacks, SM has.

For sure 🙂

so hit me with those docs, eh?

[old link]

Im sure there will be many more documents for SM in the future 🙂 If your looking at the example file still and can't work things out im sure Jorge and Malc the developers of SM or someone on the forums will be able to help you. Hope this reply helps 🙂

posh · 7 Apr 2005

does indeed my friend. 🙂 and thanks. and hi and all that. about that example synth, im dissecting that mainly to see how its built up with the gui components etc. theres a few things there i havent come to grasp yet, but im getting there.

currently im picking out and adding some modules to my toolbar from the example, then take them down to peices one by one, this is mostly to see how the gui controls etc works. also by checking out the forums ive learned quite a lot, since everything has an gui. the other things i know the basics off, and thats enough to get me started. i think. and i AM reading up on it. at first i just played with SE and similar stuff, adding random stuff without knowing anyhting. then i tried to learn what the different SE mods did from the help file, forums etc.. then i tried to read up on it. thats where im at now i guess. currently stuck at the math side on things dammit. etc 😮. anyhoo..

thats why i mentioned the example synth.. right now im dead tired and now i dont understand much at all, but i bet i will in the morning. ill go sleep now, and make something tomorrow. cheers!

- posh.

tripp · 7 Apr 2005

ah orange_...erm i mean posh, so nice to see you here 😀. just.....saying welcome lol, see ya at Z

malc · 7 Apr 2005

Hi posh,

Feel free to do what you like with the example synth. Change it, modify it, turn it inside out and then send it to anyone you like, it's all fine by us 🙂

Apologies for the lack of documentation, this really is something that will improve steadily over time. I think you will find the info we already have in the docs section very useful, did you manage to connect to it yet?

If you have any other questions feel free to post them here and we'll do our best to answer them.

All the best,

Malc.

posh · 12 Apr 2005

yeah. ive got through some docs now, they werent available at the time of my posting, except for a very few. i have checked every single module in the example synth etc, and i must say that its still quite hard for me to understand. hehe. but atleast now i understand parts of it 😀

mainly the gui part. the rest is kinda self explanatory imo. the forums are great help though. and i must say that from what i have seen/heard so far i am very impressed!

and this nifty code box makes the possibilities endless. i promise to play with SM next time when its not in the middle of the night and im dead tired. promise. then ill share some examples ive made. keep up the good work!

oh. hi tripp. i thought it was you when i saw your post at some other thread. 😉 - posh.