Problems with VSTi & CPU

malc · 30 Mar 2005

Hi galaa,

Have you tried the VSTi in another host to see if you get the same problem? Might be worth a try.

If you mail me your schematic I'll have a look at this for you.

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

I've not tried it in different hosts yet as I've only got SX3 on my work machine. I'll download a few demo versions of software and try them out. I've mailed you my schematic as well Cheers

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

Just tried it in EnergyXT and I get the same problem

malc · 30 Mar 2005

I've tried FL Studio and it seems ok. There is the odd pop when playing many notes but that's because there's no limiting. Anyway the pops and crackles certainly don't hang around after I release.

It's possible that I'm not making the right actions. Would playing four notes quickly in succession do it (holding each note as the next one comes in)?

I'm going to try another host.

malc · 30 Mar 2005

I'm trying as hard as I can but I can't seem to reproduce this. I've tried Live and Tracktion and these both sound fine. I'll try XT so at least we'll have a common point of reference.

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

it doesn't seem to make a difference whether the notes are held (legato-style) or released. As soon as I start to play notes in quick succession the problem starts. I'm having problems getting FL Studio to install on my machine. I installed the demo of Live and as soon I pointed it at the folder with my .dll file in it it crashed and it now refuses to re-open until I remove the .dll file. It seems to take quite a while to initialise the synth as a VSTi from within Cubase. I checked the size of the .dll and its smaller than th eone created by your example synth

malc · 30 Mar 2005

The Live problem doesn't sound good. I know mathman was having trouble with Live - another problem that I'm struggling to reproduce. Out of interest was it Live 4.1 or 4.1.1?

The time taken to initialise the VSTi is down to the wavetable calculations. Is it quicker to come up in XT than it is in Cubase?

Any chance you could email me the dll that you generated - might have to zip it.

Thanks.

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

Its the latest version of Live from their website - v4.1.1 It seems to come up a bit quicker in XT than in SX, but there's not much in it. I've mailed you the zipped dll

Cheers

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

Thought I'd walk you through a little test I set up in XT, it might help. If I set up sequencer and then set the output of MIDI ch1 to be my synth. Then in the MIDI edit window draw in a note at bar1-beat1 and another at bar1-beat3. This will play back fine, but if I place another note at bar1-beat2 then I get the stuttering play back

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

hi malc, bit of a development. it turns out the CPU issue was a problem on that particular computer, so thats fixed. I installed the XT demo on my home machine and it works a treat However, if I place any dll created by SM into SX's VST plugins folder then when SX goes through its startup routine it hangs for a short while as it initialises that instrument and then bombs out. I have to remove the dll in order to start SX. I'm using SX2 at home and SX3 at work

malc · 30 Mar 2005

Ok, well at least that's some progress.

In addition to the Cubase crash there's also the one you had with Live 4.1.1 as well. May well be the same thing.

Do you have any dll's that were created with older versions of SynthMaker in your plug-ins folder? If so try taking them out but leave the new dll in there.

Does anyone else use Live or Cubase SX successfully with SynthMaker generated VSTi's?

galaa · 30 Mar 2005

Oh yeah, forgot about the Live Crash. I've only ever tried one SM-made dll in my VSTplugins folder at a time. Another puzzling thing is that when I installed the FL Studio demo and pointed it at my dll it found it OK but doesn't load it in properly. Although this may just be me not knowing how to use FL! I'm not back at work now til next week, I'll try my dll with SX3 when I go back

Tom7777 · 30 Mar 2005

Often when open the example and then play quick chords and change presets then SM starts to crackle and makes the notes fuzz then if i choose close or exit it crashes and gives me an error report message.

malc · 30 Mar 2005

Ok galaa, I think I know what might be causing the crashes in SX and Live. I think it's the same problem mathman was seeing.

galaa · 31 Mar 2005

malc, I checked out Mathman's post and your right it does sound kinda similar. i downloaded your FM3x2.dll and put it in my VSTPlugins folder and pointed Cubase at it and lo and behold the darn thing started up. You'll be pleased to know that it all worked spot in from within Cubase so it looks like you've nailed it. Now all I've got to do is wait for the next update and I'll be off!!

malc · 31 Mar 2005

Hi galaa,

That's very good news. The new update (0.9.2k) will go online today, most probably by early afternoon. We'll post on the forum as usual.

Thanks.