Direct Sound Setup in SM

jorge · 28 Mar 2005

Hi db,

db wrote: It's my understanding that you can use Direct Sound in SM to hear what your synth sounds like as you construct it.

When you load the example schematic dont you hear some sound when you use the computer keyboard? The example schematic has a DirectSoundOut component that represents your DirectSound output device, it should show a selection for each of your directSound output drivers.

db wrote: Question: how can I set things up to use direct sound in SM and full asio in all other apps? I couldn't find any menu item in SM that allows for configuration . And yes, I have DirectX 9.x installed.

At the moment the only thing you can configure for DirectSound is the driver used, that's done in the DirectSoundOut component. On the top left image in the following documentation page you can see an example of a schematic using a DirectSoundOut component on a computer with 5 drivers available: [old link]

Other future audio configuration like for example buffer size will probably also be done in the components rather than on the menu.

db · 28 Mar 2005

jorge wrote: Hi db, When you load the example schematic dont you hear some sound when you use the computer keyboard? The example schematic has a DirectSoundOut component that represents your DirectSound output device, it should show a selection for each of your directSound output drivers.

Ooops! I was trying to get sound from my music keyboard-never thought to try the computer keyboard! <sigh!>

Is it possible to use the music keyboard (Midiman Radium 61) while in SM?

Also, the DS Out is connected to the Primary Sound Driver and the M Audio Delta AP Multichannel devices; which are the 'normal' correct devices when I use my hosts SX2.2, Chainer, Podium, EXT.

I can live with computer keys only while building, but use of the music keyboard would be great as well.

At the moment the only thing you can configure for DirectSound is the driver used, that's done in the DirectSoundOut component. On the top left image in the following documentation page you can see an example of a schematic using a DirectSoundOut component on a computer with 5 drivers available: [old link]

Other future audio configuration like for example buffer size will probably also be done in the components rather than on the menu.

🙂

Thanks, I'll check out the link.

db · 28 Mar 2005

At the moment the only thing you can configure for DirectSound is the driver used, that's done in the DirectSoundOut component. On the top left image in the following documentation page you can see an example of a schematic using a DirectSoundOut component on a computer with 5 drivers available: [old link]

The example.osm shows connections in the DS Out to Primary Sound Driver amd M Audio Delta AP Multichannel-which I expected. My problem was that Icould not connect a link to the other two choices: MAudio Delta AP 1/2 and M Audio Delta AP S/PDIF. I see why now-I don't use S/PDIF and my 2496 card is not configured for AP 1/2. So of course I would have to use the 2496's control panel to set those up if I wanted.

Cheers

saltpeter · 28 Mar 2005

you should be able to use your radium, i got an oxygen 8 and i was using it with the example synth, on the midi-in part of the schematic i just had to select my oxy8, similar to how you select the output on the ds-out. i don't know if it would be the same if you're using a 'real' midi hookup, mines a usb.

db · 28 Mar 2005

saltpeter wrote: you should be able to use your radium, i got an oxygen 8 and i was using it with the example synth, on the midi-in part of the schematic i just had to select my oxy8, similar to how you select the output on the ds-out. i don't know if it would be the same if you're using a 'real' midi hookup, mines a usb.

Thanks Saltpeter. The Midi In box was so small that I could only see a couple of letters of each name. It never occurred to me to drag the box wider-duh!

Must be Monday or something! <sigh!>

Cheers

malc · 28 Mar 2005

Hi db,

I have the same sound card as you and I can connect to the other outputs that you mention. I just wanted to make sure that there hadn't been any misunderstanding about how the Direct Sound Out component works.

There are always two mono inputs to the component. The output that these are sent to depends on which one is selected (shown with a blue highlight). To select an output, just click on it.

For example, in the picture below the two mono inputs send data to M-Audio Delta AP Multi.

I hope this makes things clearer if they were not so already.

db wrote: It never occurred to me to drag the box wider-duh!

Must be Monday or something! <sigh!>

If that's the case then it's our fault not yours - please don't blame yourself. I'll try and think of a way to make this more intuitive.

Malc.

db · 28 Mar 2005

I hope this makes things clearer if they were not so already.

I'm not exactly sure what you thought was unclear? The only thing unclear is why you would think something is unclear. 🙂

If that's the case then it's our fault not yours - please don't blame yourself. I'll try and think of a way to make this more intuitive. Malc.

More intuitive? Just have the Midi In and DS Out wide enough to read at the normal zoom level of 8 pixels per grid square.

Having the box smaller than the width of the name of the item makes it less than obvious that those are input/output names. e.g. PC Keyboard originally read 'PC Ke' or similar.

BTW-this is @ 1024 x 768 on a 19" monitor.

Cheers

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malc · 28 Mar 2005

Hi db,

db wrote: The example.osm shows connections in the DS Out to Primary Sound Driver amd M Audio Delta AP Multichannel-which I expected

It sounded from this that you might have thought that the input connectors applied to the the output options that appeared directly opposite them. This coupled with the fact that you said that you couldn't link to the other two choices (1/2 and S/PDIF) made me wonder whether it was clear what was going on.

Are the 1/2 and S/PDIF options disabled in the DS Out component then? If they are not then you should be able to link to them.

Apologies if I misunderstood, I just wanted to make double sure you were ok with it. If you're happy then I'm happy 🙂

PS. point taken about the default width for MIDI In and DS Out, thanks.

db · 28 Mar 2005

malc wrote: Hi db,

Are the 1/2 and S/PDIF options disabled in the DS Out component then? If they are not then you should be able to link to them.

Apologies if I misunderstood, I just wanted to make double sure you were ok with it. If you're happy then I'm happy 🙂

PS. point taken about the default width for MIDI In and DS Out, thanks.

Sorry, Malc-I expressed myself poorly. The 1/2 and S/PDIF options are indeed disabled because I always have these two disabled (Mute) in the M Audio Control Panel .

So, like, umm..do I win today's obfusticated post award or something?

😀