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Knob/Button/Selector positions not saving

Archive · 2006 14 old posts

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Devi Ever ·

Anyone else having this problem?

Just to make sure I wasn't going crazy I made the most basic VST I could think of... just a volume knob turned to the far right.

I exported it as a VST, used it in Fruity Loops, turned the knob to the far left, then saved my song, closed, re-opened, and the knob was back to the far right again.

Am I missing something here? This is pretty much making it useless for me to export anything out of SM.

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stefan ·

You got the "preset" checkbox checked in the knobs properties and have added a preset manager to your schematic?

Devi Ever ·

stefan wrote: You got the "preset" checkbox checked in the knobs properties and have added a preset manager to your schematic?

Okay, so I added a preset manager, and made sure the "preset" button was checked on the knob.

I then repeated the simple experiment as before.

This time, when I opend my FL file, the knob had indeed now saved its position to the left (which should mean no sound output), but it was working as though it was to the far right still (max volume).

Please advise.

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stefan ·

Hm. Hard to know what is wrong without seeing the actual schematic. Got anywhere to host it? Otherwise I'll PM you and you can mail it to me.

Devi Ever ·

stefan wrote: Hm. Hard to know what is wrong without seeing the actual schematic. Got anywhere to host it? Otherwise I'll PM you and you can mail it to me.

Here it is : http://www.effector13.com/publius/preset_test.osm

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Devi Ever ·

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stefan ·

I haven't been able to investigate it closely yet. The schematic looked fine to me, only thing I thought missing was that the preset wasn't given a name in the preset manager. But I haven't got access to a VST host where I am atm so I couldn't really try the exported gain plugin out.

Devi Ever ·

stefan wrote: I haven't been able to investigate it closely yet. The schematic looked fine to me, only thing I thought missing was that the preset wasn't given a name in the preset manager. But I haven't got access to a VST host where I am atm so I couldn't really try the exported gain plugin out.

Gave it a name, still having the same trouble.

The reason I'm thinking this is a bug is because I'm using nothing but modules that come with Synth Maker. I'm really not sure how I could be screwing up something so simple, but I'd be happy to know it's my error and not something that might take a few weeks to work out on your end. :'/

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sambean ·

For some reason the float value for the volume is not being triggered after loading the set with the vst included.. This is probably something that has been overlooked in some recent changes to how loading vst's work..

Just to confirm, make a set in your host with the vst on a channel set to zero volume, save the set/close/reload.. when you play there should still be some sound getting through the channel at full volume.. Now try clicking on the vst control and the volume should get reset to zero..

This is strange because the GUI is loading properly, so the preset value must be correct, it just seems the trigger of the volume level isn't getting through...

I'll investigate further..

Sam

sambean ·

I'd say it's a bug.. After the vst is loaded the green data for the knob value isn't changing the value in the blue mono stream, it is setting the GUI though..

Here's a quick fix, inside the knob where the preset and the MinMax modules are, add an 'After Load' module, this generates a trigger after the vst is loaded which will activate the value in the mono stream, connect the after load to the output of the knob module.. Actually here's the schematic:

http://magalov.myweb.hinet.net/bugs/pre ... wikFix.osm

This is just a temp workaround, but if you keep all your control modules synced, it should be easy to retrurn the to normal after the bug is sorted..

Sam

malc ·

I'm on the case with this one. Sorry for the incovenience - looks like something I changed recently.

infuzion ·

Looks like this bug was never fixed? Or do I misunderstand what the "Default Value" is supposed to be for? I thought (if you don't have a Preset Manager setting patches) the "Default Value" was supposed to send that value & snap the knob dials in place.

Also, I think the 0.125 default is silly; should be 1/2 way (.5) like how the knobs are kinda pointing to now.

& if you're going to fix the knobs, could you please save a version # somewhere in the Help text? I'm going mad with the 8 different SM knobs revisions there are for the bitmap knob alone. While you're at it, perhaps some reorganization with fewer sub-modules would save on memory as well. cheers!

MichaelBenjamin ·

i get wierd results with sm version 1.1rc1 even with the stock preset manager.

i think something is still bugged.

i made 2 presets. preset one was the current, preset 2 is at default. default value is set at 0.5, yet all knobs show 1 at default preset2.

if i change something in any preset, it does not get saved. somehow some green values seem not to be correctly propagated through..

MichaelBenjamin ·

i solved the problem, as usual it was my fault and i needed a float trigger blocker, because some values messed up the preset manager.

the default values still do not work, but thats a minor issue

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