Shiver - 4 osc FM synth

skOre · 2 May 2006

Uh, that GUI is too low contrast for my eyes at this time of the day... I better go sleeping 🙂

Shimmer · 2 May 2006

skOre wrote: Uh, that GUI is too low contrast for my eyes at this time of the day... I better go sleeping 🙂

He he. Yeah, it's bretty basic too but time's against me at the moment so it may have to do.

I'll make the background a bit lighter in the morning so the controls are clearer.

skOre · 3 May 2006

even lighter? better make those knobs darker as well! 😉

Shimmer · 3 May 2006

skOre wrote: even lighter? better make those knobs darker as well! 😉

I don't think I've got the patience. It'll have to do as it is.

Have you tried it out yet? Any problems?

skOre · 3 May 2006

Yeah, tried it. Got some quite nice sounds off it. No problems discovered. You may want to make that LFO section mor obvious though. It took me some while to get that you could switch between them 😉

Shimmer · 3 May 2006

skOre wrote: Yeah, tried it. Got some quite nice sounds off it. No problems discovered. You may want to make that LFO section mor obvious though. It took me some while to get that you could switch between them 😉

OK. I'll have a look at it later. Glad to hear there's no problems yet.

I'll be needing presets too sk0re if you get anything nice saved. 😉

AngularMomentum · 3 May 2006

WOW!! This is a very nice synth Shimmer!

Love the sound coming out of this and know for sure I am going to use this in my produce, think I can create some nice pad presets for this...I think that, if a darker background is used, or the blues are a bit darker, it would make the GUI a lot easier to handle.

It handles very well, and the CPU is about 8 to 9 % in SM, haven't exported it yet though to a .dll so can't tell you how it handles in Cubase...sure will report later.

Excellent work man and thanks for the OSM, it gives me a chance to throw in a few step sequencers....I am hooked on those.. 😈

Shifrin · 3 May 2006

Thanks for posting this. A nice sounding synth indeed 🙂

I agree that the contrast is rather low on the GUI, darkening the knob colour slightly would improve things 😉

Cheers,

Shif.

Shimmer · 3 May 2006

Shifrin wrote: Thanks for posting this. A nice sounding synth indeed 🙂

I agree that the contrast is rather low on the GUI, darkening the knob colour slightly would improve things 😉

I'll get on it soon. I've got three more assesments to get finished for friday so I may not have time to do it tonight. I've also changed the fine tune knobs to split knobs.

I've got webspace up and running now so I won't have to bother with all the file hosting places now.

Also my lecturer was saying he was having some problems with the synth in Ableton Live. Apparently certain controls were altering two controls at a time or something. Actually I've had a look around seems there are problems with other synths in Live as well. If the problems aren't fixed by the time I put it up for beta testing I'll just put a note on the KVR announcement warning Live users to expect problems.

rl · 3 May 2006

Using the OSM I have some strange behaviour on the lables. On my system they are displayed in "Cubase" font which is the 22nd font in the Index Selector list. Maybe it's the well known font bug.

Tom7777 · 3 May 2006

Actually I've had a look around seems there are problems with other synths in Live as well. If the problems aren't fixed by the time I put it up for beta testing I'll just put a note on the KVR announcement warning Live users to expect problems.

Yeah i think some people were saying this about live and SM plugins on KVR i think theres also problems with FL6 and some plugins, what i suggest the devs do before V1 is released is to make a big list of hosts make a new test synth and then have people test the exported version in all of the hosts listed to see which work and which dont or have bugs this way V1 will be able to export working plugins for all hosts 🙂

Shimmer · 3 May 2006

Well I'll try and get it tested as much as possible before I put it up to KVR and see where it's having problems.

About the font, that's a bit annoying. Was there ever a solution found if it's a problem that's occurred before? The font was supposed to be baskerville.

I made the graphical changes so the GUI should be a bit better and I've changed the way the LFO section looks to hopefully make it a bit clearer.

www.fragileaudio.com/shiver.osm

Shifrin · 3 May 2006

Thanks, gonna check it out now 🙂

Shif.

oddson · 4 May 2006

Shimmer wrote: ...About the font, that's a bit annoying. Was there ever a solution found if it's a problem that's occurred before? ...

Find the font selection mechanism, select the font you want and then disconnect the selector from the text field storing the name. It will be stable after that.

The selector is usually in the sytle module of the control.

Shimmer · 4 May 2006

oddson wrote: Find the font selection mechanism, select the font you want and then disconnect the selector from the text field storing the name. It will be stable after that.

Great, I'll try that thanks.

* done, let me know if that fixes the font rl

http://www.fragileaudio.com/shiver.osm http://www.fragileaudio.com/Shiver.dll

nfx · 4 May 2006

loading the OSM crashes my SM

Shimmer · 4 May 2006

nfx wrote: loading the OSM crashes my SM

That can't be good.

Have you got the most recent version of SynthMaker?

nfx · 4 May 2006

Yes I only downloaded it yesterday. I think it's recent.

I'm about to reboot.... now.

Shimmer · 4 May 2006

nfx wrote: Yes I only downloaded it yesterday. I think it's recent.

I'm about to reboot.... now.

OK let me know, it's working fine here.

oddson · 4 May 2006

No crashing but you haven't disconnected the font problem in many of the label components.

(the five labels in adornments...)

edit- interesting bug (not yours, SM's). If you syncronize those modules the CPU meter will jump into the 50s even though there are only green components in that module and the CPU meter is supposed to show audio load. Then the whole thing gets very bogged down and stops working.

Shimmer · 4 May 2006

oddson wrote: (the five labels in adornments...)

Got them, thanks. I'd just hit synchronize all and those 5 hadn't synced up. Got them now.

stefan · 4 May 2006

Also, remember to just use fonts that are windows default ones, otherwise you don't really know what it will look like if the user hasn't got the same fonts as you installed.

rl · 4 May 2006

Exactly. E.g I don't have the baskerville font installed. You can only rely on a pretty small set of fonts installed (http://www.kayskreations.net/fonts/fonttb.html )

That's the reason behind this workaround.

malc · 4 May 2006

oddson wrote: edit- interesting bug (not yours, SM's). If you syncronize those modules the CPU meter will jump into the 50s even though there are only green components in that module and the CPU meter is supposed to show audio load. Then the whole thing gets very bogged down and stops working.

I had a look. The labels are already synced so maybe I've got an updated version since you tried this. I can't replicate it so if you can do it again let me know.

@nfx: have you been able to load this successfully yet?

oddson · 4 May 2006

The labels in the adornments still are not synched (in the link at the top of this page as of now) but I can't replicate anyway.

Shimmer · 4 May 2006

oddson wrote: The labels in the adornments still are not synched (in the link at the top of this page as of now) but I can't replicate anyway.

I've just not uploaded it again since I made the changes.

If I have time tomorrow night I'm going to change the text to images and use them instead of the fonts so I won't reupload until I've done that.

Shimmer · 7 May 2006

OK I've changed the text so that it's either the standard font or an image so there shouldn't be anymore problems with that. I've updated the controls to take on board the changes with the new version as well.

Here's the links to the new version.

http://www.fragileaudio.com/shiver2.osm http://www.fragileaudio.com/Shiver.dll

One problem I am having though is when I export to a standalone .exe file. Some of the controls around the filter 2 section don't move and when I move the decay dial of the filter envelope a link appears. Any idea why that's happening?

Also part of my assessable content will be presets (this is part of a University project if I haven't already mentioned it). If anyone's playing about with the synth and gets some good sounds out of it would you mind saving the presets and sending them on to me. You'll be given full credit it's just that I don't know if I'll have enough time to do a decent amount myself so any you could chip in would be welcome. 😉

Shimmer · 9 May 2006

OK it's up on the KVR board for testing.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=

Any word on the standalone problems I've been having?

rl · 9 May 2006

AFAIK a known bug. I thought it was already fixed.

malc · 9 May 2006

Yeah, I thought it was fixed too! 🙂

I must have broken it again somehow. Should be easy to sort.

posh · 9 May 2006

server down it seems like. :/

Shimmer · 9 May 2006

malc wrote: Yeah, I thought it was fixed too! 🙂

I must have broken it again somehow. Should be easy to sort.

OK thanks. I'll be wanting to use a standalone in my presentation on friday.

posh wrote: server down it seems like. :/

Seems fine now. Maybe give it another try?

Shimmer · 11 May 2006

If anyone's got some spare time today would they be able to make up some presets for this?

It's due in tomorrow and the more presets the better, they only amount to about 5% of my grade but it would be nice to have a bit of variety.

I'd be very grateful.

Shimmer · 17 May 2006

http://www.fragileaudio.com/shiver2.osm http://www.fragileaudio.com/Shiver.dll

I've re-uploaded the synth made with the latest version of SM. I was going to put it up for testing to see if the issues with fruity loops had been resolved but the CPU usage in my sequencer is really high, moreso than the one made with the previous version of SM. Is there any reason this could be happening or any quick ways to reduce the CPU usage?

It does seem worse than with the older versions of SM.