logic problem - resetting a toggle switch to 0 on 'hide'

oddson · 10 Feb 2006

how's this OSM

angstrom · 10 Feb 2006

jolly good show!

It would have taken me an age to get that variation, thanks!

🙂

infuzion · 10 Feb 2006

nifty 🙂

angstrom · 10 Feb 2006

I'm glad this is fixed because the whole 'user CC assign' thing is pretty important to end-users. but the best thing for me about this is that I can simply drop the modified 'dynamic assign CC' component into already existing synths without too much trauma.

hooray. I will tidy it all up (it's 30% spaghetti right now) and probably post it into 'examples'

note: remember to switch midi CC receive off from the midi assign button, or hillarious results will ensue 😉

tormodulator · 10 Feb 2006

Thanks for that. I haven't really studied it yet, but that's a functionality I want in my plugins.

malc · 10 Feb 2006

Fantastic stuff!

MIDI learn has been on our todo list for some time now. That's a very nice solution you've come up with.

oddson · 10 Feb 2006

Hey Angstrom... do you want to be able to have more than one control open to CC assignment at a time?

If not, the trick will be to feed the mouse-click up from the CC module up to the level CC assign switch to reset any others that are open.

[Wireless that could feed multiple levels up would be nice for that... but I think I've suggested that before.]

Alternately, you'd have intercept any mouse-clicks at the level of the CC assign switch instead. Could be a little tricky.

I'd be happy to give it some more thought if that's a direction you're considering.

EDIT- OK, I went ahead because it's more fun solving little problems than banging my head on the big stuff I don't get... 😕

Here's a version that only allows 1 CC assign at a time... OSM

angstrom · 10 Feb 2006

Thanks,

initially I was going to use a mutually exclusive 'tab' model like you suggest, but I think it is an unplanned for bonus to be able to assign more than one virtual control to the same physical control, it can sometimes be useful. I guess you can still do that with your modified OSM though , so it's probably better.

I do have large and over-elaborate plans for this 🙂

I initially started this as a method of routing control signals and stream data around like a modular routing, I had a dropdown list of sources on there. Then I realised that perhaps midi assignment was a better application and ended up where we are at now. It may still be worth providing a 'manual assign' method, incase people want a control to receive a CC from a sequencing host, but dont actually have a physical controller handy.

oddson · 10 Feb 2006

I was thinking, for the CC assign issue, that the stock controls could use key modifiers for MIDI learning...

Say, holding down 'Alt' will shift the control into assign CC mode?

Wadya think?

rl · 10 Feb 2006

Thanks for the examples...

...and here is some more tricky homework:

how to distinguish between a "normal" midi controller [0..128] and an endless rotary dial (usually sending an increment message and a decrement message), e.g. my Tascam US428 mixer low gain control sends B0 12 3C messages (decrement, knob turned counter clockwise) and B0 12 44 (increment). The detection logic would have to check a couple of messages.

infuzion · 11 Feb 2006

rl wrote: how to distinguish between a "normal" midi controller [0..128] and an endless rotary dial (usually sending an increment message and a decrement message)....

You'd just have to rework the MIDI module of the knob to look for 2 msgs, then have the output of the filters connected to a Counter module. I think you can find examples in skOre's mega-pack of both.

oddson · 13 Feb 2006

rl wrote: ...and here is some more tricky homework:

how to distinguish between a "normal" midi controller [0..128] and an endless rotary dial (usually sending an increment message and a decrement message), e.g. my Tascam US428 mixer low gain control sends B0 12 3C messages (decrement, knob turned counter clockwise) and B0 12 44 (increment). The detection logic would have to check a couple of messages.

Sorry my homework is late professor. 😉

I don't have a MIDI controller that will allow me to test this but I made something that I hope emulates the messages you've indicated and then built the desired module.

No way for me to test whether it actually works but here it is:

OSM

The remote controlled knob is the same one I used HERE (second version) and is the standard knob except for some minor changes in the knob control module.

Can you let me know what my final grade is? 😉

rl · 13 Feb 2006

working like a charm, thanks.

oddson wrote: Can you let me know what my final grade is? 😉

sorry, exam failed, midi learn not implemented 😈