MIDI out

glurgle · 10 Dec 2005

what a wierd coincidence, I was just doing a forum search for this very thing. It definitely has my support. I just stayed up way to late making a midi plugin I've dreamed of for almost a year, and couldn't figure out why the VST version didn't work.

please! 🙂

skOre · 10 Dec 2005

Well, there is a MIDIOut, or what are you asking for???

Kara · 10 Dec 2005

Thanks skOre, I must have done something realy stupid then

Rony

rl · 10 Dec 2005

skOre wrote: Well, there is a MIDIOut, or what are you asking for???

yes there is, but it works only within sm, not in a VSTi (if I want to send midi data directly to a synthesizer for example)

glurgle · 10 Dec 2005

Yes for example, I made a plugin that transposes one channel of midi based on the note values of another, I want to be able to feed this two channels of midi in my host and use the transposed output (I'm using energyXT so this kind of routing is quite simple.) The schematic works when I use a midi loopback and run it in synthmaker, but if I try to make a vst of the schematic, nothing comes out the midi out.

I'm not into making demands on seemingly overloaded software devs, but I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed that this happens soon. 😉

Kara · 10 Dec 2005

I have the same problem I think, nothing out in the MIDI version

Tom7777 · 11 Dec 2005

I have also come across similar problems when working with midi plugins, as far as i know various midi schematics won't work correctly when exported to vst. Also last time i checked you need to have a midi in to export a midi plugin but this is not always needed im guessing.

glurgle · 12 Dec 2005

Just to clarify, this schematic works:

But when I try to export the middle module as a VST, there is no MIDI coming out of the VST.

On a somewhat related note, is there a way to have an int data component show up on the panel? I'm new to synthmaker and those sliders were the best way I could find of controlling the channel selection.

malc · 12 Dec 2005

Hi glurgle,

Welcome to the forum 🙂

I just fixed a bug at the end of last week which will most likely fix the problem you're seeing. In the current version the MIDI channel is not being passed correctly and the end result is that the MIDI channel is ignored.

Anyway, this is fixed now and will be in a release this week. If you want to email me your schematic I can check for sure if it fixes your problem but I'm confident it will.

This issue combined with the one fixed in the last release should resolve the majority of the issues that people were having with MIDI plugins.

Malc.

glurgle · 13 Dec 2005

Hey malc,

Glad to hear you're looking into it. I'd be happy to send you the schematic, but I can't find your e-mail. I want this plugin bad enough that I've started using it in songs with the loopback.

It's my opinion that Synthmaker offers *much* better/straightforward access to MIDI data than SE (hope that's not a dirty word around here... 😮ops:) and I've had a half dozen ideas for performance oriented MIDI plugs kicking around in my brain for a while now, that I'm very excited about finally being able to implement.

stefan · 13 Dec 2005

glurgle wrote: Hey malc,

Glad to hear you're looking into it. I'd be happy to send you the schematic, but I can't find your e-mail. I want this plugin bad enough that I've started using it in songs with the loopback.

It's my opinion that Synthmaker offers *much* better/straightforward access to MIDI data than SE (hope that's not a dirty word around here... 😮ops:) and I've had a half dozen ideas for performance oriented MIDI plugs kicking around in my brain for a while now, that I'm very excited about finally being able to implement.

Look at the four buttons at the bottom of malcs post 🙂

Glad to hear you like SM's approach!

fritzman · 13 Dec 2005

stefan wrote: Look at the four buttons at the bottom of malcs post 🙂

But Malc got five buttons! 😉

Best wishes, FRitz

[ADMIN EDIT] Sorry FRitz, in order to remove the possibility of some spammer picking this up I had to remove my email address (may be overly paranoid but better to be safe).

For some reason I had my email address hidden, should be visible now.

Malc. [/ADMIN EDIT]

glurgle · 13 Dec 2005

wierd, he only has 3 here. Maybe it's because I'm not an early adopter yet?

fritzman · 13 Dec 2005

glurgle wrote: wierd, he only has 3 here. Maybe it's because I'm not an early adopter yet?

No,

that was a joke! 😉 I only see 3 buttons there and I'm an early adopter. That's the reason I wrote down his email address for you, because it's not in his signature. 🙂

All the best, FRitz

stefan · 13 Dec 2005

I guess I got 4 because I'm a forum admin then 🙂

fritzman · 13 Dec 2005

😉

glurgle · 13 Dec 2005

well I e-mailed him all the same, and now I'm compulsively checking for new releases. (At least it will break up the monotony of only ever refreshing the energyXT site :P)

lanrosta · 14 Dec 2005

Yeah, let's get this realease out there please. This sucks because my MIDI only VST's worked fine when I was using 0.9.5b and ever since then (probably happened during the pricing debacle/vst export removal a couple weeks ago in 0.9.5c) my exported VST's don't work anymore. ARGH!!!! this sucks!!! Please get it back to the working state it used to be in.

lanrosta

EDIT- Malc and Jorge are aware of this and working on the fix. Thanks Malc!

malc · 14 Dec 2005

The fix is done.

It wasn't working because of some other fixes that were done in intermediate releases. It's completely unrelated to the VST Export issue.

At the moment we have some other changes to the software that are mid-way through. Once these are done and tested we'll get a new release out there straight away.

@glurgle: did you get the email I sent earlier today?

lanrosta · 14 Dec 2005

Thanks for the update Malc..

lanrosta

doug4350 · 14 Dec 2005

Cool, I'm glad to see others are interested in this too.

I immediately see a use for putting together an arpegiator on steroids. It'll be nice to be able to replicate The Who's Emminence Front or some material from Pink Floyd's The Wall.

At the moment, my Roland RPC audio is giving me the silent treatment 🙁 . I wanna tinker with live audio feeds for guitar/vocals...

Aloha, Doug

Tom7777 · 14 Dec 2005

Thanks for sorting this devs 🙂

glurgle · 15 Dec 2005

Indeed, thanks muchly 🙂 (after reading malcs e-mail my OCD update checking has gone mad)