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MIDI CC Switch In/Out

Archive · 2012 20 old posts

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lwaver ·

Hello Everyone

I have a very big problem I have a switch here that I can receive midi cc the problem is that I want to send it over midi cc so I did as everyone says, the research on all the forum (I look for the word midi - 360 pages). I look at 360 pages and not find a single topic or one speaks of a midi switch out. anyway - what I wanna do is send a midi cc with the switch and

block the midi cc which it receives when sending of the same midi

cc. In other words, a switch that can either send or receive the same

midi cc but not both at once. ( I hope this is well explained ). so if there is someone who could help me on the subject, it would

be well apreciated.

well all of you cordially. thank to you!

philter5 ·

hey welcome to SM land 🙂 your "problem" is fortunately an easy task. i made a example osm that you can study. it works simple: if you drag/click the switch with your mouse, then the midi output gets activated. if a MIDI message is received from outside, the output switches to OFF.

DigitalWhiteByte ·

The solution and prevent the midi loopback, taking trig directly from the primitive "LDown Mouse", and the trig from the preset manager if you use either.

lwaver ·

ok guys I'll try right away what you offer me. I returned the above as soon as possible. thank you again a mill. times.

lwaver ·

philter5

The idea is good but I want the switch reacts to the midi input signal but not sending the midi out. and when I click on the switch, it sends the midi but not receiving it to.

lwaver ·

And - DigitalWhiteByte

what is the output (I) of midicc modul

DigitalWhiteByte ·

The number of Midi CC, the same of the midi cc input.

philter5 ·

lwaver wrote: philter5

The idea is good but I want the switch reacts to the midi input signal but not sending the midi out. and when I click on the switch, it sends the midi but not receiving it to.

strange , on my pc receive worked in the last osm but send doesn´t ... i forgot a link to the midi cc nr. and fixed it. for receiving: perpaps you have to get 2 input changes for the switch to react. if, eg, the switch is turned on manually, it will not turn of at the next received message if this is a "turn on" message. only on received "off" it will switch off. hope you got me

lwaver ·

philter5

if I put it exactly like this and I put the The control change parameter to 0 it work exactly as I want, I do not understand why?

philter5 ·

lwaver wrote: philter5

if I put it exactly like this and I put the The control change parameter to 0 it work exactly as I want, I do not understand why?

in your example picture there is midi cc nr 0 set for the tester (at bottom) - and cc nr. 0 is set for receive- that´s why. but why the hell is the status byte (176) now set for cc value out? did you change that? just out of interests

lwaver ·

philter5

I apologize for this release of interest! you made an execellent job and this makes the job very well!

thank you for your attention!

Hoping to keep in contact.

lwaver ·

oh yeah I am wondering if this is possible with notes eg a C1 or C#1 etc. ...

philter5 ·

lwaver wrote: oh yeah I am wondering if this is possible with notes eg a C1 or C#1 etc. ...

yes thats possible. just replace the cc creator in your schematic with a note event primitive, for example. the note event primitive accepts only int input so you have to convert the Note Name (e.g. C''#5) to a MIDI note Pitch (e.g. 60).

lwaver ·

If it looks like something like that

mmmmm..... Doesn't work !

lwaver ·

Well I work Sun May 20, 2012 8:45 pm until Mon May 21, 2012 6:15 p.m. My eyes are out of the head. I tried to do what you told me but I did not understand quite what you wanted to tell me. I realized that I had to generate a note but not a controller. Your controller Switch helps me a lot. I have come to this. It works well but sometimes they do not send or receive the input message. Whyyyyyyyyy ?

P.S. I feel that I am close to goal !

DigitalWhiteByte ·

Try This... it simply uses the system that I mentioned in my previous post.

TeslaTronik ·

Hi DigitalWhiteByte

I seem to get a strange behavior when using the switches with the akai apc40.. i assign for example.. C3 note60 to the switch (on/off) on the midi controller,when flicking your switch in SM on and off it turns the light on the APC on and off accordingly, all good up to now.. but when i press the APC's switch it doesn't effect the SM switch properly sometimes it moves once, then wont move to the off position until i press lets say midi note 59 ( which hasn't been assigned for that switch)

any ideas on fixing this up some more? really dieing to try out making the APC into a two way controller for a VSTi and your midi work has really jump started it.

Thanks.

DigitalWhiteByte ·

I do not have an APC40, you may first check with MIDI-OX what is sent from the controller, and then follow this guide, the communication protocol for the APC40, the cotroller is set as the defaul device control for ableton, but through the sysex, you can set it in general midi mode.

TeslaTronik ·

im pretty sure it works just as a switch on any other controller would, unfortunately i can not test it on another controller atm, would be very great-full if any one else could see if its working both ways?

basically its treating the switch as a c3 (60) note on note off event, so i cant tell why it shouldn't be working.

from what i can gather the input to SM is always correct switching on and off accordingly, but the output midi from SM seems to skip sometimes.. i shall continue to play about with it.

lwaver ·

DigitalWhiteByte I just want to say a big thank you it works very well!

by the way I want to know the number of notes range from 0 to 127?

no more no less?

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