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cyto ·
Here's a little thingy that some might find useful.
Basically, it's a blend control knob. But instead of only blending between two values, you can add as many as you could possibly want and it has endless 360 degree rotation! The curves are Gaussian functions and you can set the steepness of them to get that perfect ratio between values. I put a little demo graph in the osm as well as a simple example of how you could possibly use this to "morph" between oscillators. Look in the properties panel to make any changes to the behavior, and if you want to add more values, all you have to do is copy and paste one module (there are instructions in the first module). It has all of the appropriate preset handling stuff in it. There still may be some kinks, and if you find any, let me know. Also, unless you've gotten your hands dirty with building your own GUI controls, it may be hard to figure out how to change the graphics. If anyone wants me to explain, I will, but I'm just too tired right now!
-cyto
Warmonger ·
Great stuff!
I can't find a purpose of it right now, but nonetheless it looks great.
martinvicanek ·
Nice work, Cyto, as always! Suggestion: you could add a normalization option that makes the sum of all outputs equal to 1.
cyto ·
Thanks, guys!
Martin, it is funny you should mention the "normalize to 1" feature because I really wanted to add that. Right now I just can't seem to work out the "correct" way to calculate it. I have found, though, that a "mid value" of about .7115 generally gets you pretty close to having a perfectly normalized sum (using either "to peaks" or "to midpoints"). That value should only give you an error of about +/-.001 through the travel. I arrived at this through trial-and-error and I'm sure there is a much better solution, but I have a suspicion that even if we were able to calculate it more precisely, the compounded rounding error of the float math would still yield about the same error as just using this "cheat" number.
-cyto
martinvicanek ·
🙂
cyto ·
Well, that certainly works! 🙂
Simple and Brilliant!
-cyto
CoreStyler ·
A really good thing. 😉
billv ·
Yeh, this things a keeper. Thanks "cyto"
Here it is controlling a "Step Osc". Rough example.
Warmonger ·
I tried to use to blend only 3 oscillators, but always one of them has a value set to 0. Is there a possibility to make the curve wider, so it could cover all 3 outputs?
cyto ·
Warmonger wrote: I tried to use to blend only 3 oscillators, but always one of them has a value set to 0. Is there a possibility to make the curve wider, so it could cover all 3 outputs?
Are you asking about the module "in general" or specifically about billv's osc? If it's billv's then I can't help you (I love his work but am baffled by his methods!). If you are just speaking in general terms, I can help. I think I have a tendency to be a little "cryptic" in some of the explanations I put up with my examples. I think this is just a result of having stared at the details of these things for too long while working and focusing in on them instead of the general "big picture" of the project. So here is a step by step little guide to implement this thing:
1. Figure out how many outputs you need.
2. Go into the module and make sure there is one of the modules called "first" there. Then add as many of the "add-on" modules as you will need to have a total of desired outputs. (So, if you need three outputs, you'll want one "first" and two "add-on"s).
3. Once you have chained together all of the modules (as in the example), go to the front panel of the main module and hit the little "P" button.
4. You will see an input box called "number of entries". Enter the total amount of modules there. (3 in our example).
5. Right below that, there is an input box called "mid value". This sets the "width" of the curves. The number you enter here represents the value where the curves "overlap". This must be less than 1 and greater than 0. Higher values result in "wider" curves and lower values result in "narrower" curves.
6. Now because you can vary the width, the sum of the individual curves will not always be equal. Depending on the width, the sum will either max out at the exact peaks of the curves (if the width is narrow) or at the exact midpoints (if the width is wide). You have the option of "normalizing" the gain of the curve to either of these points. From the drop down list labeled "normalize", chose either "to peaks" or "to midpoints". If you just want each curve to peak at one, then select "none" and there will be no gain adjustment.
7. Okay, now you have the shape and gain of the curves set. So you must click the "create" button. This builds the curves.
8. The last two options "start angle" and "sensitivity" just configure the GUI of the knob and should be pretty self explanatory.
I hope that helps out. If you need me to clarify anything just ask (you can PM me if you want).
-cyto
Warmonger ·
Thanks for help.
I figured out it actually works, but the meters I use have too little resolution so low values always resulted in 0.
billv ·
This things great Cyto. I knew it would fit in well my X series stuff.
Here is the Osm again, but with 2 things different.
1. Attached a Modulator. Good results fiddling with the mod controls,
2. Step Seq attached thats using the blend as well. It's mad. You can Blend/Sample Mod/and Phase mod all at once.
Some tips inside.
cyto ·
Awesome, billv!
I can't wait to see the next creation! I truly am amazed at what you accomplish in SM.
-cyto
billv ·
cyto wrote: Awesome
Thanks man, but it's all your fault-you started it.ha ha ha..... 🙂
I shut down SM about 3/4 weeks ago(needed a break from it)
I also hit a dead end with the X12FL- I couldn't think of any serious way to make it any better. I was thinking
that the X series development was over.
Your blend thing changes all that. Looks like there might be a X13.
I havn't begun to explore your blend module properly. That Osm was a real quick "mock up" just to see how the blend
effects a modulated output. So much potential in it.
What about The Step lfo with blend, the wave multi lfo, Pitch module, gate blah blah blah........
Could easily build a whole new synth just around that blend module of yours. 😈
Looking forward to spending more time with it. Probably take me a month to get to the bottom of it.
Busy at the moment. Be patient with me.
Thanks again man. Cheers.
philter5 ·
great stuff guys, reminds me of some great projects
that some of the SM gurus made years ago , but never finished because of the (still existing) green timer issue... 😉
billv ·
philter5 wrote: but never finished because of the (still existing) green timer issue..
Maybe because they didn't have SM FL at the time-where the Green timing is 100% Accurate.
SM Green Timing is a dead issue as I see it. We got the PPq Faker, Nix's Dreamtimer or the one I'm using
as good options for working in SM. But if you want 100 Accuracy in Green-you have to come over to FL.
Worked some more on the blend. Didn't sound very good as step lfo, as a wave lfo it was a bit better,
similar result like the Sample Mod thing I've got going. But not really"musical" enough to pursue.The seq
version still sounds great-will put that idea in the next X11FL Update.
Will start to look at lower levels now to see what the blend can do...........
philter5 ·
billv wrote:
philter5 wrote: but never finished because of the (still existing) green timer issue..
Maybe because they didn't have SM FL at the time-where the Green timing is 100% Accurate.
SM Green Timing is a dead issue as I see it. We got the PPq Faker, Nix's Dreamtimer or the one I'm using
as good options for working in SM. But if you want 100 Accuracy in Green-you have to come over to FL.
Worked some more on the blend. Didn't sound very good as step lfo, as a wave lfo it was a bit better,
similar result like the Sample Mod thing I've got going. But not really"musical" enough to pursue.The seq
version still sounds great-will put that idea in the next X11FL Update.
Will start to look at lower levels now to see what the blend can do...........
sounds very promising.... i´ll have to check FLSM 🙂
billv ·
philter5 wrote: i´ll have to check FLSM
I know we are "off topic" here, but definatly download it and have a go if you havn't tried FL Studio.
I've had it since 2003, done several albums with it, it's very stable, cheap to buy, disgustingly easy to use.
I think it's a "masterpiece" program, like Abelton Live or Reason. Great stuff.
But to be honest, it is a bit of a pain to work in FL SM-feels a bit cramped for room, and building a instument
that can only be used in one host really hurts. But the results are there. I can't listen to the X11(SM) now that I'm used
to the solid timing of the X11FL-turned it into a completly different instrument.
It's a good option for me because I'm at least a couple of years away from learning how to do it all in white and blue.
Hope this helps.........
CoreStyler ·
I think timing of FL SM is solid because use the internal FL clock.
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