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Instrument with audio input possible?

Archive · 2012 4 old posts

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MDMA ·

I have a bass synth with a compressor ready for sidechain and while on the host I would like to give the user the choice to send any channel to it to activate the sidechain, is this possible or is it a VST3 only feature?

By the way when is the next update for SM? Will it raise the vst version?

Thanks in advance!

trogluddite ·

MDMA wrote: is this possible or is it a VST3 only feature?

A plugin with any combination of audio (blue mono) and MIDI inputs can be exported as a VST - but what functionality you get will depend very much on which host is used. Some hosts make a distinction between audio, MIDI and/or "instrument" channels which may mean working in a slightly different way to usual. Some sequencers do offer the option of dedicated "sidechain" facilities, but I believe that this is one of the things that may require VST3 or a particular host. Even connecting it as an "instrument" may not work as expected, as the plugin must be saved as an effect,rather than a synth, in order to allow audio inputs. However, so long as your sequencer allows any type of MIDI message to be sent to a VST effect, you can usually work around these issues by using your plugin as an insert effect on an audio channel, and then setting up a separate MIDI channel to port the notes to it. Speaking for myself, I use Reaper as my main host, and I have never had any problems getting any of my plugins to behave as I want (MIDI, audio, instrument & FX can be mixed freely in any channel). Maybe other folks could chip in with their experience of doing this in other platforms.

MDMA wrote: By the way when is the next update for SM? Will it raise the vst version?

The developers have a policy of never announcing release dates in advance, nor do they ever hint at what features they are working on - so unfortunately we have no way to know. (several of us have written to them to ask, but they will reveal nothing). There have been quite a few enhancements to OutSim's other software (FlowStone) recently, which possibly could be added to SM easily - but none of them relate to audio/plugins. So it is hard to say whether the developers are even interested in developing the audio features any further - the other software is targeted at a much wider audience, so the effort to make SM plugins stable with a new VST spec' may be more work than they are prepared (or able) to commit.

But there have been times when a new update just gets announced out of the blue, and we all go Yippee (until we find all the new bugs!). 😉

Xtinct ·

Hi I like to use Chainer as a host because even if you load it with a vsti as long as its got an input you can feed stuff through it and also loads into other hosts as a vst hope this makes sense I'm a bit Troggied 😉 The internet should really come with a breathalizer if only to stop my wife buying stuff.

trogluddite ·

Xtinct wrote: I'm a bit Troggied 😉

He he, I was also a bit "Troggied" when I was answering posts last night, so apologies if my long-winded posts were also a bit confusing!

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