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nightshade.rajah ·
Greetings all! I'm new to the world of Synthmaker - recently got the latest FL Studio that included it, and I want to learn how to create synths and effects (of course 🙂 ) However, I admit that i may have gotten in a bit over my head - there is A LOT to learn, which I look forward to. I attempted to replicate the demo synth in the YouTube video, but something is amiss: no sound, and some of the links are gray instead of white. I'm sure it may be something simple that I am missing, but for the life of me I can't see it. How can I make it work? Please help... I included the osm for my synth as well.
trogluddite ·
Hi there, nightshade, welcome to SM.
Your synth is actually very, very close to working - the problems all come from the little modulation source modules, caused by the pesky 'Bus Create' primitives (they are very fussy!).
When you create a bus, two things have to be absolutely spot on - the names of the bus variables (they are even case sensitive) - and the data type. Here's a look inside one of them after I fixed it up...
- First, you can see how I edited the name - each of the names must match exactly one of the items in the drop down list for the modulation sources.
- Second, I changed it to be the correct poly (white) data type. This is tricky to set for 'Bus Create' modules, as you can't change it once the links are connected. So first, I deleted the black link at the bus input - then (useful trick), right click on the module "In" connector (you have to click on the circle) - you then get a pop-up where you can 'force' the data type to be 'poly' overiding the automatic selection - now make the connection again, and the 'Bus Create' will correctly detect the right data type.
This is well worth practicing and remembering - there are a few other things in the toolbox that have this annoying habit of not reading the data type correctly. You can 'force' the data type this way for any module input/output (you have to go inside the module where you see them as black rectangles for it to work)
Here's the complete synth will all of the changes - not sure I've quite fixed everything, but you should be able to get a few interesting sounds out of it now...
Happy SynthMaking 🙂
nightshade.rajah ·
Hello Trogluddite, thanks for taking a look at my query! The information you gave me was solid, I wasn't aware of that at all... I still wasn't able to get any sound from the synth, though. And I was tinkering with the links attached to the routing matrix - those are still dark - but wasn't able to figure out exactly how to remedy those (if they are an issue...) Do I need to remove those links and right click on the ports to change them? I wasn't sure if they were poly as well - they seem to have different symbols. What would you suggest I do? I apologize if I'm being a bother - I just want to be sure I understand the process as thoroughly as possible.
trogluddite ·
nightshade.rajah wrote: And I was tinkering with the links attached to the routing matrix - those are still dark - but wasn't able to figure out exactly how to remedy those (if they are an issue...
Some of the other links to the matrix are bus type -where you see the (B) circle connectors- those are supposed to be black. I think OutSim did that on purpose just to confuse us! 😉
P.S.) I forgot before - there is a little tutorial about buses that I put on the Wiki - LINK.
nightshade.rajah wrote: I still wasn't able to get any sound from the synth
Did the update that I posted work OK? That one works fine on my machines - but I use the "normal" SM, so I have no idea if the audio/MIDI works differently in the FL version.
I only fixed the thing I saw first, so maybe there are other small errors that I did not see. If you want, post your progress so far, and I will take another look - or maybe one of our other FL users can check it out in case there is a special FL way to do the Audio/MIDI communication.
nightshade.rajah ·
Hi again Trog (is it okay if I call you that for short?) I think you may be onto something: since I'm using the FL version of SynthMaker, it may be possible that there's a wrinkle that may separate it from the main version (although I'm more convinced that it could just be me overlooking something...) I'm checking out your other suggestions to see if I can make some headway nonetheless... And thanks for being patient with me. I know this is a bit tedious - I tend to ask a lot of questions - so thank you very much for all of your help!
trogluddite ·
nightshade.rajah wrote: And thanks for being patient with me. I know this is a bit tedious - I tend to ask a lot of questions - so thank you very much for all of your help!
No problem 🙂
All of us here know that the user manual etc. is not so good. We also had to learn SM by asking questions, and talking with the other people on the forum - so most folks here are happy to help - good 'karma' for the help that we also get.
nightshade.rajah wrote: Hi again Trog (is it okay if I call you that for short?)
Also no problem - even my mum calls me that these days!
nightshade.rajah ·
Hi again Trog, how are things? Sorry I wasn't able to respond sooner... I was tinkering with my synth, but still can't figure out what I am missing... Two things seem likely: one, when I load the osm, it states that it was made using a newer version of SM and that it may not play properly... and two, I think the issue may be centered around the routing matrix - the only module with dark lines attached to it. Any thoughts?
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