OSM not opening for other users

nix · 8 Feb 2012

Have you got 2 systems Bill? I tried on laptop & desktop- both crash Sorry, I can't suggest anything to help. One thing to do would be to get access to a system where it crashes and chop modules out until it doesn't.

billv · 8 Feb 2012

Yeh, just did that now. Used my little bro's cpu. It's just like mine, XP,a 2.33 Quad Core(the slowest they ever made). Installed SM2, fired up X11.osm and no problems. Cut an exe,played with it-all good. Downloaded a Standalone from my site-all good. A bit of a relief. at least.

I gave my mum a crappy old laptop years ago, so I tried that-and it Crashed SM2 straight away.

So is this a power issue? Nix, how powerfull is your desktop?? What are you running?

I might have to issue a "minimum system requirements" statement for the OSM post.

CoreStyler · 8 Feb 2012

For me opens quickly and works well.Opens in 3 seconds 😀 Laptop. Intel core i7 quad 2.0ghz

You stolen Rob Papen Predator knobs 😈 😈 whooaa 😍

nix · 8 Feb 2012

I don't think it's a minimum requirements thing.

My lappy is- i3 2.4ghz quad 2gig Win7 desktop- Core2duoXtreme 3.00ghz quad 3gig Vista (Dell XPS 720)

hmm

CoreStyler · 8 Feb 2012

Maybe depending on RAM or OS? Here some part of CPU-Z report: Processor 1 ID = 0 Number of cores 4 (max 8) Number of threads 8 (max 16) Name Intel Core i7 Codename Sandy Bridge Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz Package (platform ID) Socket 988B rPGA (0x4) CPUID 6.A.7 Extended CPUID 6.2A Core Stepping D2 Technology 32 nm TDP Limit 45 Watts Core Speed 798.3 MHz Multiplier x FSB 8.0 x 99.8 MHz Stock frequency 2000 MHz Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, VT-x, AVX L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size L3 cache 6 MBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size FID/VID Control yes

Turbo Mode supported, enabled Max non-turbo ratio 20x Max turbo ratio 29x Max efficiency ratio 8x Max Power 60 Watts Min Power 40 Watts O/C bins none

Chipset -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Northbridge Intel Sandy Bridge rev. 09 Southbridge Intel HM65 rev. 05 Memory Type DDR3 Memory Size 6144 MBytes Channels Dual Memory Frequency 665.3 MHz (1:5) CAS# latency (CL) 9.0 RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 9 RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 Command Rate (CR) 1T MCHBAR I/O Base address 0x0FED10000 MCHBAR I/O Size 19456 MCHBAR registers

Memory SPD -------------------------------------------------------------------------

DIMM # 1 SMBus address 0x50 Memory type DDR3 Module format SO-DIMM Manufacturer (ID) Elpida (7F7FFE0000000000) Size 4096 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz) Part number EBJ41UF8BCS0-DJ-F Serial number CFD00C5B Manufacturing date Week 18/Year 11 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 5.0-5-5-14-19 @ 380 MHz JEDEC #2 6.0-6-6-17-23 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #3 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #4 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz JEDEC #5 9.0-9-9-25-34 @ 685 MHz JEDEC #6 10.0-10-10-28-38 @ 761 MHz

DIMM # 2 SMBus address 0x52 Memory type DDR3 Module format SO-DIMM Manufacturer (ID) Hyundai Electronics (AD00000000000000) Size 2048 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz) Part number HMT325S6BFR8C-H9 Serial number 61491038 Manufacturing date Week 24/Year 11 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 5.0-5-5-14-19 @ 380 MHz JEDEC #2 6.0-6-6-17-23 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #3 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #4 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz JEDEC #5 9.0-9-9-25-34 @ 685 MHz

Display Adapters -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Display adapter 0 Display name \\.\DISPLAY1 Name Intel(R) HD Graphics Family Memory size -1260 MB PCI device bus 0 (0x0), device 2 (0x2), function 0 (0x0) Vendor ID 0x8086 (0x1043) Model ID 0x0116 (0x1682) Performance Level 0

Software -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 7601) DirectX Version 11.0

billv · 8 Feb 2012

CoreStyler wrote: For me opens quickly and works well.Opens in 3 seconds 😀

Good to hear.

CoreStyler wrote: You stolen Rob Papen Predator knobs 😈

Ha ha, my fault for not thanking the guy who posted em' in graphics section.

nix wrote: I don't think it's a minimum requirements thing. My lappy is- i3 2.4ghz quad 2gig Win7 desktop- Core2duoXtreme 3.00ghz quad 3gig Vista (Dell XPS 720)

Jeez Nix, That's not what I expected to hear. That's heaps of power. That put's me back to square one. Don't get it. It should open. It's not that big a synth. I'm crashing.

Hey"Corestyler", if you go poking about inside, and see something that could be causing issues, let me know. And thanks for having a go at it.

CoreStyler · 8 Feb 2012

What edition of SM? free pro or enterprise?

nix · 8 Feb 2012

SM2 Pro here, the latest version.

billv · 8 Feb 2012

nix wrote: SM2 Pro here, the latest version

Yes, same here.

nix wrote: One thing to do would be to get access to a system where it crashes and chop modules out until it doesn't.

Yeh, time to reverse engineer. I'm confident in finding the problem today. There's just 3 things between 1.2 and the 1.3 Update- 1. X box controller 2. Visual display unit. 3. Tabs So I'll just take em out, one by one, till she runs on the crappy laptop.

CoreStyler · 8 Feb 2012

Did save any kind of setting/preset on the disk? sometimes SM give strange things. For example, one of my synth crashed when exporting a bank. I change the "total" programs into the preset manager, then... return to the previus set.. then bug disapper. This was surely because some old data was present into the preset n*64 (the last). Some data to "trigger block" maybe?

billv · 8 Feb 2012

Ran the tests. It was the X Box controller causing it. I replaced it with the new X Box Module I posted the other day in examples, and no problems. It opens in my crappy laptop. X11 has been updated to 1.4 and re-uploaded. Nix, have another go. BUG REPORT: I did notice that when the x-box was engaged inside SM, I kept having issues resizing the toolbox or even getting access to it. I'm presuming this is Graphics card related. I've had same thing happen before when the synth gets big. I also saved the osm without pressing the btn to activate the X box control. I'm 99% sure, that as I saved the OSM, the controller was active, and stayed that way in the file. So when you try and start it up, the OSM is saying"I'm built to have the controller on", but the default behaviour of the X-box module is nothing untill you hit a pushbutton. So that's where I think it was spitting the dummy.

nix · 8 Feb 2012

Yep, it's up 8D Thanks for chasing down the problem. I'll have a poke around the arrangement/triggers view. I want to do this too, make a generative sequencer.

billv · 8 Feb 2012

nix wrote: Yep, it's up

Wicked. Got to love squashing a bug. You were right again Nix, it wasn't performance related. Which is great cause I want to keep going with it.

nix wrote: I want to do this too, make a generative sequencer

Let me know if i can help in any way. Note that with my work, there's not much, if any, serious DSP involved. So it seems to me that a crucial part of "a generative sequencer" is how it's layed out. How it's designed. I like some of the ones in "Reaktor", well worth the download to check it out if you havn't already been there.

CoreStyler wrote: setting/preset

Note: There's no program manager in X11. Not designed for VST plug in, just standalone at the moment. I don't want that trouble maker in there at the moment. Less work too. Don't have to name everything. I love that part. Thanks again guys.