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vst effect problem (initial values vs my values)

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tester ·

I'm not sure what to start with (what should I search for).

When making an effect in which input signal is simply mixed with some synth sounds - vst shows up, and during preview I can manipulate the synth sound (frequency on this example), but after applying the effect to the input - only initial values are added, and my adjustments are ignored.

For example initial frequency when I start the plugin is 500Hz. I change it with slider to some other value. But when applying effect - the initial 500Hz is mixed and not my modification.

Is this DAW specific (working on steinberg wavelab) or there should be something added to the schematic?

Mo ·

Tried add a Preset Manager?

tester ·

Not yet.

Main preset manager and sub-presets for items are on the task list; I did not touched it yet.

Is the preset manager required for live manipulations on the effect (i DAW) in order to apply them, or it just stores user values which can be then applied?

trogluddite ·

Hi,

tester wrote: Is this DAW specific (working on steinberg wavelab)

This is indeed the problem - the automation parameters don't work properly when rendering 'off-line' in Wavelab. Can't remember if there is a work-around, but I'm pretty sure there has been a thread about this quite recently - a search for 'Wavelabl' and/or 'Offline' should find it.

Mo ·

I think a Preset Manager is needed. When there's no communication to the slider preset it will enter the same default value. trogluddite wrote: the automation parameters don't work properly when rendering 'off-line' in Wavelab. Can't remember if there is a work-around, but I'm pretty sure there has been a thread about this quite recently - a search for 'Wavelabl' and/or 'Offline' should find it.

Removing the "RedrawLimiter" from within the preset module in the slider can fix automation problems in Cubase. Don't know with Wavelab but probably the same.

tester ·

I can switch to reaper (which is not expensive) or audacity (which is free) or something else - if there works with no issues. But okay, first I try to understand how it works and see how I can implement this. But if in DAWs like wavelab it does not works, then how you can make then an effect like reverb or something - that processes the sound according to your settings?

Alternative is to make a standalone that uses an imput wave which can be processed and stored to disk (writing to disk recent topic). It would be nice to make both ways work however.

tester ·

Okay, simple adding the 'preset manager' to the schematic - makes make the vst in wavelab (v.6 tested) works, and changed settings are added to an audio input. One problem less to solve 😉

Thanks!

tester ·

To finalize this topic - as I understand, each modified value (knob, switch, trigger, etc.) that is stored to the 'preset manager' - must have it's own value 'auto capturer' like the one I see in slider, yes?

And names/IDs in each such capturer must differ in order to not duplicate/overwrite preset entries, yes?

Mo ·

tester wrote: To finalize this topic - as I understand, each modified value (knob, switch, trigger, etc.) that is stored to the 'preset manager' - must have it's own value 'auto capturer' like the one I see in slider, yes?

Yes, they all need a preset module.

tester wrote: And names/IDs in each such capturer must differ in order to not duplicate/overwrite preset entries, yes?

Yes, duplication will also confuse the host and mess up with automation and presets.

tester ·

Okay, thanks!

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