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multichannel output

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macron ·

Hallo,

i must have more than one stereo sound output channel ( VST ), is it possible

thx

trogluddite ·

Yes, you can stick as many extra mono out's as you need - all the hosts I've tried so far will recoginise them.

macron ·

How would I do that? i find nothing in the manual....

attic ·

Definitely take a look at Trogluddite's module here. Its complex but will give you some insight into this. Exe setup window

macron ·

this is an example of an exe not a VST. when i copy this 16´asio-chematic in a VST, my DAW show only 2 channels...

Dell ·

Do you have multiple soundcards routed in your DAW that will enable you to achieve a multichannel output?

If do not have a multiple channel inputs and multiple channel outputs on your soundcard or using multiple two channel souncards you will not achieve a multichannel output higher than two.

Trogluddite's method is the standard for a multichannel system with routing capability. It doesn't mater if it is an exe or vst for that is an option Synthmaker offers when exporting your design.

Cheers.

macron ·

I should like to connect 16 sampleplayer to 16 various channel in my DAW to his own mixer - like Mdrummer, groove agent and much more...

is that not possible whith synthmaker ?

Dell ·

Do you have multiple soundcards routed in your DAW that will enable you to achieve a multichannel output?

macron ·

no ...

macron ·

look here.. Example Superior Drummer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5aGNuFRYiA

Dell ·

You need multiple soundcards or a single soundcard that offers multiple in/outs to have a multichannel output.

macron ·

is this, what i mean ... "multitrack" or "more-as-two-mono-output´s" "mdrummer" called it ... MDrummer 16-out "Steinberg´s groove agent" called it 16 Output-Bus and other say´s multichannel...Whatever, it´s my mistake, but i´m not a specialist.

this here what i mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5aGNuFRYiA works with a normal Stereo Soundcard. One vst sends more than two mono signals to the Daw.

is this possible to send more as 2 mono signal´s to the daw ?

Dell ·

You may want to open microsoft paint and draw what you are trying to achieve for you just posted the same video again.

The limiting factor of Synthmaker in terms of design is not the program but, how to impliment it from a developer's standpoint.

Since you don't appear to verse with terminology, it may be best to draw a diagram on what you want to achieve.

macron ·

i can select the "16 Output-Bus" here

and have 8 Stereo channel in the Daw.

Dell ·

That is routing based on where the outputs are directed to the internal mixing board’s channel of your DAW. That is completely different than having a soundcard that offers multiple in/outs for everything is handled inside the DAW. It can be done but, you will need to know how based on the DAW you are using.

Trogluddite’s project is supposed to work providing you are exporting is in VSTi

macron ·

storno

macron ·

can i do that with synthmaker ?

trogluddite ·

As has been pointed out, that schematic of mine is designed for .EXE exports. For multichannel VST plugins, the soundcard/ASIO driver etc. should not be a limitation - though remember, I am talking here about SM2.0.5, it may different for SM FREE, or FL Studio version.

Only two things should be necessary... 1) Do not have the ASIO or MIDI In/Out primitives inside the module that you want to export. 2) Add the extra ins/outs as mono connectors to the VST module...

When you export, the extra outputs (and their labels) will become part of the VST plugin, and should be recognised by your host.

There are a couple of limitations. 1) The number of outputs will always be fixed - there is no way to have a menu etc. so that the user can hide outputs that they don't want. 2) The outputs will be read by the VST host in the order that you have them on your module (from top to bottom). This order is also fixed at export, so take care when e.g. pairing stereo channels or 5.1 making surround plugins.

Don't worry if you only have a stereo soundcard to use within SM - the new outputs will export OK even if they are not connected to a driver primitive in your schematic. In this case, I would suggest that you make yourself a little switcher or mixer module (living outside the plugin module that you want to export). That will let you monitor whatever outputs you like as you build and test your design.

NB) The same principles apply to audio inputs - just create as many mono conectors as you like. This makes it possible to write audio FX for surround channels, or to have 'side chain' inputs.

macron ·

ok, i try it whith my old motu card.. thank you

macron ·

this is what i try

but the extra channel are not displayed

I give up

macron ·

now

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cool... thank you very much 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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