using (FL)Synthmaker to make a guitar amp plugin

acg2010 · 12 Dec 2011

Chris, there are several good amp simulation projects in the forums to give you some ideas (just search for guitar amp, amp simulation, etc). My in-progress project is posted here with the osm to look at at box.net Guitar Amp. It is based on other peoples work.

I listened to your demo song - very nice, realistic guitar sound (at least in my opinion). My amp project was created in Synthmaker CM so its using older modules. I have only worked with FL Synthmaker once so I am not that familar with it but it should work the same as the CM version. Feel free to use any parts from my project if you want or you can recreate them in FL Synthmaker.

chris · 12 Dec 2011

acg2010 wrote: Chris, there are several good amp simulation projects in the forums to give you some ideas (just search for guitar amp, amp simulation, etc). My in-progress project is posted here with the osm to look at at box.net Guitar Amp. It is based on other peoples work.

I listened to your demo song - very nice, realistic guitar sound (at least in my opinion). My amp project was created in Synthmaker CM so its using older modules. I have only worked with FL Synthmaker once so I am not that familar with it but it should work the same as the CM version. Feel free to use any parts from my project if you want or you can recreate them in FL Synthmaker.

hey thanks! I'm glad you found it ok 😀 I'm gunna take a look at yours to see how you go about doing things. I havn't borrowed from anyone yet. its mostly been trial and error, and listening to my actual amp and seeing how it reacts to various other types of inputs.

*edit: cant actually get yours to work. it wont accept audio in for some reason. seems to be set up for midi?

acg2010 · 13 Dec 2011

Sorry chris, I should have emphasized that my project is a "work in progress" and is not set up currently as a vst effect. I just thought it might give you some ideas looking at the individual modules in SynthMaker. It is currently configured for midi input and use with a midi vsti for sound generation. To make it a workable vst effect, I need to convert some of the modules from stream to mono. Then it could be exported as a vst effect and used in a DAW. However, since I am using SynthMaker CM, I have certain limitations (can't code and a reduced module set). Check out some of the other projects that are better than mine for examples of amp simulators. Sorry I could not be more help, good luck with your project.

Have you tried using Guitar Rig 4 for recording your guitar?

-acg2010

chris · 13 Dec 2011

acg2010 wrote: Sorry chris, I should have emphasized that my project is a "work in progress" and is not set up currently as a vst effect. I just thought it might give you some ideas looking at the individual modules in SynthMaker. It is currently configured for midi input and use with a midi vsti for sound generation. To make it a workable vst effect, I need to convert some of the modules from stream to mono. Then it could be exported as a vst effect and used in a DAW. However, since I am using SynthMaker CM, I have certain limitations (can't code and a reduced module set). Check out some of the other projects that are better than mine for examples of amp simulators. Sorry I could not be more help, good luck with your project.

Have you tried using Guitar Rig 4 for recording your guitar?

-acg2010

thanks for the help anyways man, I appreciate it!

as for guitar rig 4, I try to avoid native instruments because of their DRM. I much prefer line6. I have 3 pods (pocket, xt, x3) that I use in general.

cyto · 13 Dec 2011

Hey Chris.

Your demo sounds pretty darn good to me 🙂 It is a little hard to be critical of the guitar sound, though, with the drums and bass and all the reverb on the track. Maybe upload a clip of just a dry guitar track going through your ampsim so we can focus on it?

BTW, this link (http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/comj.2009.33.2.85) provides a pretty good overview of simulation techniques for guitar amps. I don't know how limited the FL or the CM version are. Some of the techniques in the article might be beyond what you can accomplish in those versions, but they certainly are doable in SM2.

-cyto

chris · 14 Dec 2011

cyto wrote: Hey Chris.

Your demo sounds pretty darn good to me 🙂 It is a little hard to be critical of the guitar sound, though, with the drums and bass and all the reverb on the track. Maybe upload a clip of just a dry guitar track going through your ampsim so we can focus on it?

BTW, this link (http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/comj.2009.33.2.85) provides a pretty good overview of simulation techniques for guitar amps. I don't know how limited the FL or the CM version are. Some of the techniques in the article might be beyond what you can accomplish in those versions, but they certainly are doable in SM2.

-cyto

hey, here is a clip of just guitar 🙂

the FL version of synthmker really isnt limited at all. it just exports fruity plugins instead of VSTs.

I'm also working on a lead model now.

I will take a look at that document in more detail in a little bit. just had a quick look over and it seems to be good material. thanks 😀

chris · 14 Dec 2011

here is the lead tone.

chris · 16 Dec 2011

would just like to say that I have an early version released as an FL-Studio plugin: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.p ... 30&t=85592

chris · 24 Dec 2011

the guts of the plugin are done! just waiting on a friend to help me finish up the graphics. here is what the final version sounds like: http://soundcloud.com/d3drocks/chris-gu ... -vst-audio

acg2010 · 27 Dec 2011

chris - I have completed my Guitar Amp sim as an effect finally. I have tried it out in Sony Music Studio 7 and it works well and should work OK in FL Studio as well, but I have not tested it. If you get a chance to test it out, let me know what you think.

Guitar Amp

chris · 28 Dec 2011

acg2010 wrote: chris - I have completed my Guitar Amp sim as an effect finally. I have tried it out in Sony Music Studio 7 and it works well and should work OK in FL Studio as well, but I have not tested it. If you get a chance to test it out, let me know what you think.

Guitar Amp

I will take a look. I just bought the full synthmaker as well (image-line discount is AWESOME!), so my plugin as a non FL plugin will be coming soon!

MyDogRamsey · 12 Jan 2012

Very cool guys!