Project Exporting in Black and Grey

trogluddite · 12 Nov 2011

What a shame - that's a really smart looking GUI in its proper colours.

The only thing I can think of that is different between SM and export is if you have any colour selectors etc. which are defined inside 'purgable' modules. This could leave some colour inputs with null values when the purged parts get removed at export time. If this is the case you can get around it by using 'Sample and Hold' or 'Switch' primitives as storage areas for the values...

If that isn't the problem, then we'll need to see your schematic to locate the problem - you could post a version with only the GUI (sound processing parts removed) if you want to keep your enhancement techniques secret.

EDIT) Using the 'Colour Switch' to store the colour for export )as shown above), no longer works since the new trigger system was introduced - see a few posts down for an alternative way, storing the colour as a string.

smokeysteve22 · 12 Nov 2011

trogluddite wrote: What a shame - that's a really smart looking GUI in its proper colours.

The only thing I can think of that is different between SM and export is if you have any colour selectors etc. which are defined inside 'purgable' modules. This could leave some colour inputs with null values when the purged parts get removed at export time. If this is the case you can get around it by using 'Sample and Hold' or 'Switch' primitives as storage areas for the values...

If that isn't the problem, then we'll need to see your schematic to locate the problem - you could post a version with only the GUI (sound processing parts removed) if you want to keep your enhancement techniques secret.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Its purely the GUI, there is no audio enhancement involved at the moment but do you mind if i PM you so you can take a look inside the osm? (its quite messy at the moment 😉)

You know 10x more than i do, i haven't used the GUI stuff in SM much so thought id give it a go.

smokeysteve22 · 12 Nov 2011

Did you get the OSM? My private messaging was being odd..

trogluddite · 12 Nov 2011

Hi again, got your PM and had a look inside.

The problem is similar to what I mentioned above...

The colour inputs to your controls and graphs have no input to their colour connectors. I assume that you used the colour pickers to select some colours, and then removed them once you had done with them (this is similar to how the purging I mentioned before works). When you save/load from SM, the components have a better memory for values that you have set previously - but when you do an export, things that need remembering need to be explicitly stored somewhere (like the sample and hold etc. in my last post). In this case, it's probably easier just to leave your colour selector primitives in place - they will correctly remember the colour settings when exported, and they take up very little memory in the schematic (really they are just a tiny tiny code that calls up the colour dialogue that is parts of Windows). The colour selectors won't appear on your GUI, so you don't need to worry that users could accidentally spoil the look of the plugin.

smokeysteve22 · 12 Nov 2011

I see how you mean on that but -

This is in the 20-80 module for the drag Y and ive left all the colour selector options left attached but its still not being shown, i also tried to make them 'purgeable' and exported and looked but this completely removed the drag box?

Have you tried exporting with what you did/looked at?

Somethings telling me that somehow the Colour selectors that im using are not 'compatible' with the export, for example on the display there is the legend with - FFT Post (this was made using the original sm colour selector) and yet that has and is the only thing show in the export? It enables the user to change the colour of the graph ... Also the white lines at the top of the drag boxes is showed (used sm default colour selector)

Thanks for the help again.

trogluddite · 12 Nov 2011

Aha, you are right - the yellow colour/alpha selector is not working. I think it used to work OK - I have used it myself in the past. But the 'Colour Switch' is not holding on to its value. Possibly its behaviour changed when the new trigger system was put into the newer SM2 updates.

Here's a new version of that module that seems to fix the problem (exe export worked OK). I've turned the colour into a string which can be safely stored in a string entry box. (Odd that there is no colour 'Sample and Hold' available).

smokeysteve22 · 12 Nov 2011

trogluddite wrote: Aha, you are right - the yellow colour/alpha selector is not working. I think it used to work OK - I have used it myself in the past. But the 'Colour Switch' is not holding on to its value. Possibly its behaviour changed when the new trigger system was put into the newer SM2 updates.

Here's a new version of that module that seems to fix the problem (exe export worked OK). I've turned the colour into a string which can be safely stored in a string entry box. (Odd that there is no colour 'Sample and Hold' available).

Thanks again man!

Using your tool now and its worked (bitch replacing it all though 😀)

Btw; If anyone is interested on/collaborating with me or stuff to make some plugins stuff id be more than interested Drop a line on here or PM!

Thanks again man!

stw · 13 Nov 2011

trogluddite wrote: Aha, you are right - the yellow colour/alpha selector is not working. I think it used to work OK - I have used it myself in the past. But the 'Colour Switch' is not holding on to its value. Possibly its behaviour changed when the new trigger system was put into the newer SM2 updates.

That's one of mwvdlees toolbox goodies which fooled me many times... 😉 It's good to reduce filesizes with purgeable modules but sometimes it's a saving at the wrong place! 😉

Acrobat · 7 Dec 2011

trogluddite wrote: (Odd that there is no colour 'Sample and Hold' available).

You can still store a colour using the string box component in the form (alpha:R:G:B)- I never thought about "storing with switches", you always find strange ways to use the software, great, Trog... eh ehe 😀