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TeslaTronik ·
I've recently purchased an AKAI APC40, and a copy of ableton only to find theirs no good effect plugin for live loop catching (repeating).
Does anyone think this type of plugin is possible in SM, and any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated. or full osm lol 😉
The effect i'm after is basically, grab a user defined amount of the live streaming audio, just cant seem to figure out how to do it without code.
Thanks in advance.
philter5 ·
ableton live beat repeat???
TeslaTronik ·
Thanks for the fast reply, Ive tried beat repeat and this is great for timed looping synced up to host and so on, but there doesn't seem top be a free mode for user defined times. the precise use im after is, for my live sets, a two know set up, one = to adjust the amount of samples caught , two = grab stream / release stream (for it to return back to original signal). ive seen this done with a pitch shifter, but that is WAY WAY beyond me.
Thanks again.
infuzion ·
http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php ?
TeslaTronik ·
I'm aware of the KVR forum. thanks, i had already looked on their hence my post here for Synthmaker to do this.
trogluddite ·
Soopa Doopa Loopa Note that the linked .osm is just a Beta, but most of it works OK - if you click the big '?' button on the front panel, you can get help about the controls by hovering over them. This project is not forgotten - a new improved version is nearly ready; I'm currently doing a lot of testing and writing a .pdf user manual.
Main features...
Capture up to eight loops, you can fix the capture length or have it auto set (with quantise and/or tap tempo) from the button presses. Timestretch/pitch shift of loops (not the best quality in the world, but usable) Offset and trim loops in real time, plus chop-and-randomise. Independent FX for each loop. Most controls respond to MIDI - and some have keyboard shortcuts. Many controls can also have their movements looped, or be set to auto-ramp to a target. Headphone output for cueing stuff independent of the main output. etc.
Pressing record at any time will silence the current loop, and begin monitoring the live audio stream again (there are settings to change this behaviour if it is not quite what you need).
I built this because it is what I always wanted ever since my first sampling delay guitar pedal - the final release will be freeware, and I'm always happy to receive bug reports or suggestions for new features.
As you seem to want to capture a 'random' length of audio,here's a quick description how to use the Tap Tempo. -Press Record to arm a loop for recording (you should now hear the live audio). -Right click the BPM readout until it says 'TAP' -Click on the length bar (1....32) to say how many beats long your loop will be (helps later to sync other overdubbed loops) -Now press Record at the start of your loop, and Play at the end (MIDI pedal control is best for this!) -The loop now plays back just as recorded, and the tempo is calculated. -Just use Rec and Play to make loops in other slots and they will be quantised to the calculated tempo (nearest beat).
TeslaTronik ·
Thanks Trog, This amazing gem is exactly what i need right now, cant wait to fully get to grips with it, 1st impressions in ableton is great, just need to figure out how to get my APC to recognize the pitching via Midi and your learn (on fine pitching) wont seem to work ( but im thinking that's not automatable as they don't show up in lives automation panel.
this is of course 1st play, lots to delve into,
Thanks again your a legend!!!!
cant wait for the full release.
trogluddite ·
The pitch control becomes active when you switch on the button shown below...
...when this is on (yellow) you can transpose using MIDI notes, and use pitch bend to fine tune. It is designed for matching up the pitches of loops, so it doesn't work quite like normal pitch bend - it 'glides' up and down, then sticks when you let go.
The MIDI learn thing should be improved in the finished version - the names in the window are 'borrowed' from the help box, so some controls show up in there that weren't finished yet in the Beta. If you are having trouble with control values being way too sensitive, you can try unticking the option 'Literal MIDI values' on the settngs screen - that will force all plugin controls to use the full 0...127 controller values. For things like the number boxes, the default behaviour is to send the exact number, but some controller boxes don't let you change the knob range so easily to do that.
VST host parameter automation is mostly disabled - I chose to do this because the plugin has its own automation ('knob looping' and 'auto-fading') which are designed specially for using live. When I tried it with VST auto as well, the plugin automation made the host very confused - so I decided to use control just from the MIDI input. A few VST parameters are used just for the 'preferences' type settings, so that the routing setup etc. can be saved.
Hopefully it will make more sense when I finish the user guide - too many good things to fit inside the help box!
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