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Smackbox schematic (drum synth)

Archive · 2011 35 old posts

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stefan ·

So, years go by and obviously I will not finish this.

I hope some clever guys here will do something nice with this 🙂 I know there's some bugs in there, but I use it as is when making music.

Also, sorry Martin. The new version we were working on with your GUI (it does look awesome) would've been great but life came in the way.

Btw, I know the schematic is a bit... tricky, but that's just because I'm using the polyphony system to play different monophonic sounds on different voices within the streams to keep things efficient.

edit: Added screenshot

trogluddite ·

Interesting schematic - thanks for the example, the float arrays plus ID system is most inspiring.

stefan ·

Btw, if anyone is interested in actually keep on developing and releasing this, by all means, do.

I won't hunt you down if you just nick it, since it was utterly useless to the world just being hidden away on my harddrive, but I might get mildly disappointed since I'd very much prefer if it'd live on 🙂

TomC ·

When I look into the mess inside I understand why you've never found the time to get it finished 🙂

Anyway, thanks for posting.

Tom

stefan ·

TomC wrote: When I look into the mess inside I understand why you've never found the time to get it finished 🙂

Anyway, thanks for posting.

Tom

It's really quite useful as is 🙂 Me and Martin were working on implementing his GUI vision and a whole bunch of new functions in the GUI as well, which would've made the thing much more user friendly, but, well, I just didn't do my part really.

DigitalWhiteByte ·

😕 😮

stefan ·

Is that bad? It's made that way because the EQ is after the volume envelopes, making it possible to let the EQ resonate without getting cut off with a nasty click, but instead the voice will live on until the EQ 'ringing' has faded out.

TomC ·

stefan wrote: Is that bad? It's made that way because the EQ is after the volume envelopes, making it possible to let the EQ resonate without getting cut off with a nasty click, but instead the voice will live on until the EQ 'ringing' has faded out.

It's not bad, it's a primitive which isn't available to the general public 🙂

Tom

stefan ·

I noticed that the Midi to Voices component has changed. You now have to set the NoRpt to "true" (that parameter was not available when I built this schematic) for the drums to be monophonic-per-note, as they should be 🙂

edit: doesn't seem to be all there is too it...

edit2: if anyone knows how to fix the voice repeating issue, let me know 🙂

stefan ·

TomC wrote: stefan wrote: Is that bad? It's made that way because the EQ is after the volume envelopes, making it possible to let the EQ resonate without getting cut off with a nasty click, but instead the voice will live on until the EQ 'ringing' has faded out.

It's not bad, it's a primitive who isn't available to the general public 🙂

Tom

Huh? I just installed SM Pro on this machine and it's there? 🙂

stefan ·

And here's one example of what it can sound like (limiter added as post processing).

stw ·

That baby has really powerful sound! 😀

stefan ·

Yes 🙂

Thank you!

stefan ·

trogluddite wrote: Interesting schematic - thanks for the example, the float arrays plus ID system is most inspiring.

That was the big "original" thing about how this was constructed (and yes, it caused quite a mess in the GUI components). Each knob holds settings for all sounds in a drum kit, and when a note gets played, the right setting gets picked from the GUI component, which makes it so that different notes can basically have different "presets" but share the same sound process.

philter5 ·

hey stefan thx for sharing ! 🙂

stefan ·

No-one that knows how to fix the "no repeat" bug? As far as I can tell, that is the only real "bug" in smackbox.

stefan ·

No-one? 🙂

stw ·

Hi Stefan, i'm not sure if that's what you're after but here's a first wokaround of the double trigger issue. I simply added a master envelope t the output section which cuts the voice if double triggered. The "No repeat" flag has to be set in the midi to voice module. This is just a quick mock up and isn't well implemented nor fully tested. One issue if a voice is killed is that you hear noticeable clicks depending on which level the voice is cut. That would need some kind of fade out i guess.

stefan ·

Cool!

The clicking is indeed quite bad, and expected 🙂

Btw, this is a new bug (I think it was introduced in a newer version of SM). The way it was done in the schematic I posted used to work 🙂

stefan ·

Nice to see that people are developing stuff from this!

http://dskmusic.blogspot.com/p/download ... synthdrums

Keep up the good work!

infuzion ·

stefan wrote: Nice to see that people are developing stuff from this! http://dskmusic.blogspot.com/p/download ... synthdrums Keep up the good work!

Oh, that's DSK for you; nicks other people's work then claims it as his own. He is one of the main reasons why people don't post as many OSMs on the forum anymore, not until there is atleast lockable modules.

philter5 ·

lockable modules would be really great 😮 . i can understand infuzion very good. and, BTW, DSK´s version looks more like a GUI "refresh" (a small one) then a further development... he did not even change the knobs! (okay they look nice indeed and it´s no crime to use them, but hey... 😉 ) TBH i haven´t tested DSK´s plug yet but i don´t think it´s much more different to your version then the changed background/color scheme....

stefan ·

philter5 wrote: lockable modules would be really great 😮 . i can understand infuzion very good. and, BTW, DSK´s version looks more like a GUI "refresh" (a small one) then a further development... he did not even change the knobs! (okay they look nice indeed and it´s no crime to use them, but hey... 😉 ) TBH i haven´t tested DSK´s plug yet but i don´t think it´s much more different to your version then the changed background/color scheme....

He kept my presets and they sound the same, so I don't think he changed anything 🙂

I'm fine with it though. Anyone is free to do what they want with Smackbox, but I'd be really really happy if someone developed it further and took care of it, like I never did 🙂

dskm ·

if you see a few second, you will see more diferences than the interface, like the preview botton that work for every sound selected.

let me know what instruments I get from here.

thanks for your great work, stefan. If you like, I can add a mention to you in my post and in the readme file.. just let me know.

dskm ·

infuzion wrote: stefan wrote: Nice to see that people are developing stuff from this! http://dskmusic.blogspot.com/p/download ... synthdrums Keep up the good work!

Oh, that's DSK for you; nicks other people's work then claims it as his own. He is one of the main reasons why people don't post as many OSMs on the forum anymore, not until there is atleast lockable modules.

Just let me know what instruments I get form here... is too easy to talk.

stefan ·

dskm wrote: if you see a few second, you will see more diferences than the interface, like the preview botton that work for every sound selected.

let me know what instruments I get from here.

thanks for your great work, stefan. If you like, I can add a mention to you in my post and in the readme file.. just let me know.

Preview button is interface, and you could click on the virtual keyboard too in the old version 🙂 But I still hope you develop and maintain your version, everybody wins if you do!

If you add a mention or not is totally up to you, people are free to do what they want with this schematic.

dskm ·

stefan wrote: dskm wrote: if you see a few second, you will see more diferences than the interface, like the preview botton that work for every sound selected.

let me know what instruments I get from here.

thanks for your great work, stefan. If you like, I can add a mention to you in my post and in the readme file.. just let me know.

Preview button is interface, and you could click on the virtual keyboard too in the old version 🙂 But I still hope you develop and maintain your version, everybody wins if you do!

If you add a mention or not is totally up to you, people are free to do what they want with this schematic.

thanks for your reply, stefan 🙂

philter5 ·

...i know that´s a bit off topic here but one question stefan: ANY chance to get lockable modules in the future 😍 ? or is it just a wishdream from me and infuzion(and perhaps a lot of other users) that will NEVER EVER happen?

dskm ·

stefan wrote: If you add a mention or not is totally up to you, people are free to do what they want with this schematic.

I edit the post and add a mention to you and this post 🙂

http://dskmusic.blogspot.com/2011/08/dsk-synthdrums-released.html

Sorry for not make the mention untill know. I have no idea than you have released this as VSTi, I see recently in kvraudio.com, but dude that meffy continuos ban me from kvr I cant say this in his site...

Meffy Is in a campaing against me for a long time, he said a lot of things in his post, but not let me a chance to respond anything whit her continuos ban.. in any case, thanks again 🙂

nix ·

I'll drop a word if u want me 2 DSK(onKVR). Just say that Stefan is fine with you using his framework?

dskm ·

nix wrote: I'll drop a word if u want me 2 DSK(onKVR). Just say that Stefan is fine with you using his framework?

it would be good! 🙂 Yes, if you read this post, stefan say it's ok.

I put mentions to stefan in my site, www.dskmusic.com, in the first post.

thanks!

nix ·

I have told KVR in the SmackBox thread that it's fine with Stefan. I linked ur site w/- drum synth displayed. Maybe peeps will be happy that the synth is still being developed. I dunno what happened with u and KVR really. I remember I used ur ZetH for my standard VA for about a year. Contents and success! I can talk to Meffy too, we are on friendly terms I think. Have u stopped using warez? I think that would matter if u want get back on KVR

dskm ·

Sincerely, I dont konw why meffy says I use warez (photoshop?!...) I don't know how he can know something like that!! in other terms, I have full licensed adobe phosotoshop cs3, due I was working in a design studio.. I have been banned from kvr for a long time, and meffy frustrated every try to register again, and acuse me of a lot of things than he can't proof.

You can talk with meffy, but I think you will to lose your time..

meffy neve will give a chance to respond him in kvr site, due that he know thats he always is aganst me without proof.

thanks! 🙂

nix ·

I own cs3 too, I think that was the only real sticking point. hmm, meffy has a cyclone in his place, so his internet is down. I will ask what is the problem soon. Cheers 8D

dskm ·

a million thanks 🙂

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