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help to send sysex messages

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222 ·

i like to create a vst controller for jp8080

I need to know how to send sysex parameters

e.g.: ·

I could use the help as well. I would love to build dashboards for my vintage synths. I've downloaded some, and using them as models, I've tried my own. Unfortunately, I can't get them to work. I know that my SysEx messages are correct, as they work when assigned to my Novation ReMote SL.

It's probably something very simple. It usually is.

Thanks folks.

rl ·

Here is an old example that should still work

222 ·

in synthmaker work sysex, i have exported to vst and not work sysex

rl ·

more info please, 222! Do you send sys-ex to the VST host? which host? Only a few VST hosts are able to deal with MIDI sys-ex messages. Try to directly route MIDI to your instrument bypassing the host.

222 ·

sysex only works in synthmaker and standanlone not work in vst,any vst host

rl ·

sorry 222, I can't help if you are not more specific.

I just re-checked one of my schematics exported as a VST plugin and it was able to send and receive MIDI data in SYS-EX format. Things to consider: - Send/receive directly to/from MIDI device where your instrument is connected to. Completely bypass the VST host. - Use a MIDI monitor (e.g. MIDI OX) to check MIDI transmission - Use virtual MIDI cables (e.g. MIDI YOKE) to route MIDI signals, e.g. from one VST instrument to another. So you could build a sender and a receiver plugin and test communication. - Check for the existence of SYS-EX filters

trogluddite ·

Are you using the latest SM? VST plugin MIDI output was broken for a while in old SM2 versions - the bug was fixed in SM2.03, and the new SM2.04 has more bug fixes.

222 ·

i tested sysex with midiox and not work I have updated to 2.0.3 and not work only works standalone version

222 ·

another problem, changing the preset do not send sysex changes in synthmaker

222 ·

help

oddson ·

That schematic is too messy to encourage others to help.

Take a single control and the Preset Manager and make a VST with it. If the problem is still present post that file and maybe someone here might be able to trouble-shoot. But posting spider-web OSMs rarely gets people to pitch in.

oddson ·

On why it doesn't update on Preset change... it's because the wireless trigger "After Preset Change" is connected to the regular midi event (which is connected to a dead wireless MIDI out) but not the sysex.

222 ·

help to turn on/off a led in a button

trogluddite ·

You can use the standard LEDs from the toolbox (GUI folder) - they work as buttons too if you click on them. You can load your own 'On' and 'Off' .png's into them from their properties panel.

222 ·

help

vst version not send sysex

222 ·

help to change the vst form i like a buttons to select panel: lower o upper

oddson ·

I'm having trouble too... I can't get it working even within SynthMaker. The sysex primitives are responding as expected. Anyone else verified they work under the most recent versions?

222 ·

help

trogluddite ·

oddson wrote: I'm having trouble too... I can't get it working even within SynthMaker. The sysex primitives are responding as expected. Anyone else verified they work under the most recent versions?

No problem here from within the SM application or when exported as .exe's. I tested using a MIDI cable routed between hardware in and out. The only quirk that I found is that it's essential to use to use the trigger output on the Sysex-to-String, as the string output sends no triggers of its own.

No joy at all in Reaper though - I've tried various combinations of sending and receiving using VST exports with no joy at all. There's the odd flicker of a 'signal present' indicator when transmitting, but no recognisable messages. The receiver plugin gets nothing, even if I insert a SysEx message into a track by hand. Nothing in VSThost either - even with transmit and receive plugins chained directly together.

Not been using Reaper too long, so that could be just me missing a vital setting (all of the filtering options I have found are cleared) - but VSThost has been my standard test-bed for a long time now, so I'm pretty confident that the plugins are to blame for the lack of MIDI data.

222 ·

this is a new bug ?

trogluddite ·

Not sure, seems that most of the SysEx designs I've seen communicate directly to the hardware rather than through a host.

I had a little dig around on the net (searched for 'SysEx VST plugins') - and found quite a few discussions about using SysEx with VST plugins (not just SM). I get the impression from what I've read that there are some limitations due to the VST specification itself, so it could be that it's not possible to use SysEx with any VST plugin.

Probably best to send an e-mail to [email removed], and ask the developers - if there is some reason why VST's are unable to do SysEx, I'm sure they would know.

DigitalWhiteByte ·

Was one of my primary research at the beginning I used synthmaker, and came to the conclusion that communication is possible only by sending the sysex data to an external midi port, directly by the plugin. The reasons for not having a full MIDI support, was that the host, until recently, were not developed with the support of sysex, but now the vast majority of its users. It would be the case, to have a full midi support based on samples as per specifications sdk, and the remaining messages not yet present, those realtime etc..

222 ·

synthmaker support full sysex for vst ?

DigitalWhiteByte ·

Synthmaker support sysex messages even when it is exported as a VST, does not seem to successfully send messages through the internal routing host. If you need to send sysex messages, for an external equipment synthmaker can do this by connecting directly to the midi port where you have your own equipment, except that that port may not be available for hosts, unless you have a midi card multiclient .

222 ·

problem, not save the preset of a float panel selector uses a counter to change waveform

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