Duduk plug-in

mwvdlee · 18 Feb 2011

Turjan wrote: Hello !

I'm a Duduk Player (in France) and i'd like to create a Synth focus on this instrument ... but I'm really not comfortable with the programing

plug'i in VSTi focused duduk are really missing in the collection of free vst...

someone here would be willing to help me to design this kind of VSTi? I can provide all the sounds needed

Due to private situations, I rarely get to spend any with with S|M anymore, so I probably won't be able to help you out. But I am interested; what kind of VSTi did you have in mind? What is it supposed to do or be capable of?

Turjan · 18 Feb 2011

I don't really know what are the possibilities of SM ... but I work on developing a Soundfont (. sf2) of my duduk and I would like this soundfont is independent and has its own player, meaning an instrument with its own effects

trogluddite · 18 Feb 2011

Hi there Turjan, welcome to SM.

Parsing soundfont files has just been added to synthmaker in the recent SM2 release, and support for proper note/velocity zones was also added - so it certainly looks like what you require is possible. But that does mean that few SM users have tried using it yet (it will be an educational project for all of us!). I understand that there have been several different versions of the soundfont standard, and I'm unclear exactly which is supported by SM. You can find some technical details in the 'Component Reference' (pdf is HERE); search the pdf for the 'SFZ' component - maybe you could take a look, and tell us if this is supporting all of the soundfont features that you need.

Good luck with your project - it will be a challenge to capture all of the expressiveness of the duduk in a VST, but it will certainly be a very useful and original one.

mwvdlee · 18 Feb 2011

Turjan wrote: I don't really know what are the possibilities of SM ... but I work on developing a Soundfont (. sf2) of my duduk and I would like this soundfont is independent and has its own player, meaning an instrument with its own effects

Forget about the possiblities of SM, just imagine what the VSTi would ideally do and see what can and cannot be done based on that. SM has it's limitations, but with some creative thinking it can do a lot more than obvious at first glance. If all you want is a standalone Soundfont player, SM is certainly capable of handling it. But I doubt a plain soundfont player will capture the nuances of a wind instrument well; Sample players are much more suited to instruments like keys and percussion where you have limited influence on a sound once it's started.

Turjan · 18 Feb 2011

Thanks a lot for reading ! sorry I'm french and read (and understand!) the PDF will take me some time! (but I can dwell on this weekend!)

I think a good expression should work on the sensitivity of MIDI values (and not only on the volume) The attack of the notes changed much in the play of the duduk.

it's the problem of PA800 Korg, but the Roland X6 is better ... but i prefer the sustain of KOrg ....

Duduk Korg

Duduk Roland

I am pleased that such a project would be "possible"!

I thought to start by creating an emulation of an "A" duduk "(E) F G A B C D E F G A" so 18 active notes on the keyboard in a chromatic scale (other touches could be to assignate for drones) Am I obligated to complete the file Sf2 or it there another way? anyway I'll finish the wave files (4 per note for the moment ... )

sevanmusic · 25 Aug 2011

hi turjan, hope you are still around, i also play some duduk in experimental music, i am also interested in the syth sound, i wanted to get news from your projects, i sty in canada for now but live in france and can get help for you by passionate friends in synth,...let me know take care sevan